Is the U.S. Preparing to Bomb Iran?

[onthebottom]

Where is McClulan....

LOL

Is the U.S. Preparing to Bomb Iran?

Is the U.S. Stepping Up Preparations for a Possible Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities?

By JONATHAN KARL
Oct. 6, 2009

Is the U.S. stepping up preparations for a possible attack on Iran's nuclear facilities?

The Pentagon is always making plans, but based on a little-noticed funding request recently sent to Congress, the answer to that question appears to be yes.

First, some background: Back in October 2007, ABC News reported that the Pentagon had asked Congress for $88 million in the emergency Iraq/Afghanistan war funding request to develop a gargantuan bunker-busting bomb called the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). It's a 30,000-pound bomb designed to hit targets buried 200 feet below ground. Back then, the Pentagon cited an "urgent operational need" for the new weapon.

Now the Pentagon is shifting spending from other programs to fast forward the development and procurement of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator. The Pentagon comptroller sent a request to shift the funds to the House and Senate Appropriations and Armed Services Committees over the summer.

The comptroller said the Pentagon planned to spend $19.1 million to procure four of the bombs, $28.3 million to accelerate the bomb's "development and testing", and $21 million to accelerate the integration of the bomb onto B-2 stealth bombers.

'Urgent Operational Need'
The notification was tucked inside a 93-page "reprogramming" request that included a couple hundred other more mundane items.

Why now? The notification says simply, "The Department has an Urgent Operational Need (UON) for the capability to strike hard and deeply buried targets in high threat environments. The MOP is the weapon of choice to meet the requirements of the UON." It further states that the request is endorsed by Pacific Command (which has responsibility over North Korea) and Central Command (which has responsibility over Iran).

The request was quietly approved. On Friday, McDonnell Douglas was awarded a $51.9 million contract to provide "Massive Penetrator Ordnance Integration" on B-2 aircraft.

 

[blackrock13]

So OTB, all nice and wonderful, but what's your answer, Y/N? Why wouldn't they make a plan?
Their scenario book is probably 3 ft thick, as is Russia's, China's, or Nato's. It's SOP.

 

[onthebottom]

So OTB, all nice and wonderful, but what's your answer, Y/N? Why wouldn't they make a plan?
Their scenario book is probably 3 ft thick, as is Russia's, China's, or Nato's. It's SOP.

My answer is no.... like it's been since these threads started 2.5 years ago....

OTB

 

[landscaper]

So OTB, all nice and wonderful, but what's your answer, Y/N? Why wouldn't they make a plan?
Their scenario book is probably 3 ft thick, as is Russia's, China's, or Nato's. It's SOP.

The book died years ago, there is however a computer database thatis rather large. It contains amoung other things plans to attack, ottawa.hamilton and London england, just in case its needed

 

[great bear]

They will only bomb the Iran facility if Osma is rumoured to be hiding in it.

 

[Gyaos]

They will only bomb the Iran facility if Osma is rumoured to be hiding in it.

What a GREAT idea!
BOOM!

Gyaos.

 

[danmand]

They will only bomb the Iran facility if Osma is rumoured to be hiding in it.

Are you sure. There has not been must bombing of caves lately.

 

[smuddan]

Starting a new war is a good way to stimulate the economy when everything else has failed

 

[blackrock13]

The book died years ago, there is however a computer database thatis rather large. It contains amoung other things plans to attack, ottawa.hamilton and London england, just in case its needed

You bet your ass LS. There is a plan for everything they could think of and a couple they couldn't.

I really like hard copies though, because pencil on paper survives EMPs. Even quarterbacks have a hard copy on their wrists.

A little light reading to a smile on your face, or not.


50 Rules of Combat (They never taught you)


-You are not Superman
-Recoiless rifles aren't.
-Suppressive fire won't.
-If it's stupid & it works, it ain't stupid
-Never draw fire, it irritates everyone around you.
-When in doubt empty the magazine.
-Never share a foxhole with someone braver then you are.
-Your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.
-If you can't remember, the claymore is pointed toward you.
-All five-second grenade fuses are three seconds.
-Try to look unimportant--they may be low on ammo.
-If you are forward of your position, the artillery will be short.
-The enemy diversion you are ignoring is the main attack.
-The important things are always simple.
-The simple things are always hard.
-If you're short of everything except the enemy, you're in combat.
-Incoming fire has the right of way.
-No combat-ready unit was ever passed inspection.
-No inspection-ready unit has ever passed combat.
-Teamwork is essential. It gives them other people to shoot at.
-If the enemy is in range, so are you.
-Tracers work both ways.
-The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.
-Radios will fail as soon as you need fire support.
-When both sides are convinced that they are about to lose ... they are both --right.
-All weather close support doesn't work in bad weather.
-The bursting radius of a grenade is always one foot greater than your jumping range.
-The only terrain that is truely controlled is the terrain upon which you are standing.
-The law of the bayonet says the man with the bullet wins.
-REMF's (Rear Echelon Mother Fraggers) are everywhere.
-The best tank killer is another tank. Therefore tanks are always fighting each -other ...& have no time to help the infantry.
-Precision bombing is normally accurate to within +/- one mile (...or so).
-Don't look conspicuous, it draws fire.
-Cluster bombing from B-52s and C130s is very very accurate. The bombs -always hit the ground.
-Perfect plans aren't.
-Friendly fire isn't.
-The easy way is always mined.
-The side with the fanciest uniforms loses.
-Professionals are predictable--it's the amatures that are dangerous.
-Armored vehicles are bullet magnets; a moving foxhole that attracts attention.
-No plan survives the first few seconds of combat.
-Expending material in combat is easier than filling out Graves Registration forms -- Ammo is cheap; your life isn't.
-Just because you can't see the enemy; don't for a minute believe they can't see you.
-Final Protective Fire doesn't.
-The enemy invariably attacks on two occasions:
-When you're ready for them.
-When you're not.
-A "sucking chest wound" is nature's way of telling you to slow down.
-If your attack is going well, you've just walked into an ambush.
-Anything you do can get you shot, including nothing.
-Make it tough enough for the enemy to get in and you won't be able to get out.
-When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Starting a new war is a good way to stimulate the economy when everything else has failed

Very true but usually the MIC is all that is stimulated....



The problems we face today will not be solved by the minds that created them

 

[peter4]

Starting a new war is a good way to stimulate the economy when everything else has failed

Sure it is - NOT ! - How did starting the Iraq war help stimulate the economy ????

 

[WoodPeckr]

Sure it is - NOT ! - How did starting the Iraq war help stimulate the economy ????

Are you kidding. The MIC 'sector' of the economy made a fortune on it!



The problems we face today will not be solved by the minds that created them

 

[sirak]

Possible Iran war scenarios and outcomes!

Zionist Attack On Iran - Scenarios
From Lord Stirling
10-6-9


Now that the Iranian/Six Power talks have concluded with no breakthrough we can expect an Israeli attack on Iran at any time. We need to consider what will happen next.

Scenario 1 -- The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. The destruction of the fully-fueled nuclear reactor causes massive deaths. Iran does nothing. This is the pre-school level thinking scenario and believe it or not, it is the scenario that is most likely covered by the corporate owned mainstream news media. If you believe this scenario it is likely you should also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

Scenario 2 -- The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz. It takes several weeks to several months to remove the advanced mines using the best mine sweeping technology available. The World's economy, already in a depression, goes into total collapse. The economic depression becomes far worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s. Early grade school level thinking.

Scenario 3 -- Same as number 2 above but Iran fires some missiles on Israel, most are shot down by Israeli and American air defense systems, however some hit their targets and several thousand Israeli civilians are injured and a few hundred killed. Middle school level thinking.

Scenario 4 -- The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites. Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz. Iranian missiles and Syrian missiles and Hezbollah rockets and missiles rain down on Israel. After several days of back and forth missile and air attacks the UN Security Council establishes a truce. Thousands are killed in the attacks on Israel and many more in Syria, Lebanon and Iran (plus the large number killed by the destruction of the fully fueled nuclear power plant in Iran). The World's economy is toast from the cutting of the Strait of Hormuz but eventually a type of peace returns and the economy gets better. Congratulations you have reached high school level thinking. Still not realistic but better.

Scenario 5 -- The Israeli Air Force bombs the major Iranian nuclear sites using low yield nukes but claims that only conventional weapons were used. Deaths from the destruction of the nuclear sites, including the fully fueled nuclear power plant, run into the millions. Nuclear fallout spreads throughout the Middle East and SW/SE Asia and eventually over the Northern Hemisphere. Iran responds with a full MAD (mutually assured destruction) counter-force attack. Iranian missiles with radiological warheads, chemical warheads, advanced conventional warheads (fuel air explosive warheads with yields in the tactical nuke range), and some conventional warheads. Syrian missiles, equipped with similar warheads, also fly towards Israel.

The Hezbollah missile force, which is controlled by Iranian and Syrian officers, cuts loose with everything it has. This amounts to over 50,000 rockets and guided missiles, everything from large numbers of unguided Katyusha 122 mm artillery rockets with a 19 mile/30 km range and capable of delivering approximately 66 pounds/30 kg of warhead to longer range guided missiles that can and do hit all of Israel. Many of the 50,000+ Katyushas have simple 'dumb' conventional warheads but others, and most of the larger guided missiles, use chemical, or radiological ('dirty bombs'), or FAE warheads and cause massive damage as a all-out effort to fire as many as possible, in as short of time as possible, is made.

The Syrians and Iranians fire a range of medium range guided missiles, mostly with advanced conventional/NBC (nuclear [radiological]/biological/chemical) warheads. The Iranians release the large Advanced Biological Warfare arsenal, that they have spent most of twenty years building up (first using former Soviet biowar scientists to jump-start their entry into the 'poor man's nuke' genetically engineered biowar virus 'game'), into Israel, select Arab nations, the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and certain other EU/NATO nations. The 50+ different super-killer viruses are spread using 'sleeper agents' and use the population as vectors to spread the advanced biowar viruses. Total numbers killed in the target nations run into several hundred million.

The Israelis use neutron bombs (atomic bombs with a low blast effect but high short term radiation effect) on a large area of Lebanon and Palestine in an effort to 'kill' the launch sites and personal involved in the launches. The Israelis see most of their civilian population killed or seriously injured. Large areas of Israel are contaminated with long-term radiation by the radiological warheads of its enemies. Israel, using a combination of aircraft released weapons, ground-to-ground guided missiles, and sub lunched cruise missiles showers Iran and Syria with nuclear warheads from smaller yield weapons to high yield Hydrogen bombs.

Most Iranian and Syrian cities are totally destroyed with too few people left to bury the dead. Nuclear fallout spreads throughout the world, especially in the Northern Hemisphere. The Advanced Biological Warfare viruses continue to spread throughout the world, although the most stringent quarantine measures are put into place including total lock-downs of most cities and the issuance of RFID chips to buy or sell anything (especially food and medicine) and to pass military checkpoints (total martial law throughout most of the world).

Scenario 6 -- Same as the above but Illumunati agents and Illumunati controlled governments arrange massive 'terrorist' strikes/bombings in India and Pakistan and China and in the Georgia area. A major sea incident takes place near Georgia with Russian naval forces. India and Pakistan and China engage in a major nuclear war destroying over a billion people's lives and spreading truly massive amounts of nuclear fallout across the land. Russia and China release a barrage of ICBMs and SLBMs at what is left of Israel destroying all life there and in much of the Middle East. America and NATO and Russia and China engage in limited nuclear war when suddenly the return of Jesus Christ puts an end to what would be total destruction for the human race.

Earl of Stirling

 

[smuddan]

Sure it is - NOT ! - How did starting the Iraq war help stimulate the economy ????

So you believe the only motives for the Bush Admin. to attack Iraq were wmd and 911?

I don't think the Iraq war is a good example to support your point of view because the economy then was so much different than today's.

IMHO motives behind most wars, with a few exceptions, were driven by economical interests.

 

[Cinema Face]

50 Rules of Combat (They never taught you)

Funny!

 

[dcbogey]

Where is McClulan....

LOL

He's too busy trying to convince others that 9-11 was an inside job.