There seems to be a thick layer of red neck racism just below the smug surface of the Canadian persona.... Thought I'd give ya all a chance to vote on it.
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Are Tamil's "Real Canadians"
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Yes.
They live here many were born here and are engaged in our social and political processes (as this proves) they are Canadian.
Some may consider themselves hyphenated-Canadians (where they put there culture first), but I think the majority of people in this country do. Doesn't make them less Canadian.
They live here many were born here and are engaged in our social and political processes (as this proves) they are Canadian.
Some may consider themselves hyphenated-Canadians (where they put there culture first), but I think the majority of people in this country do. Doesn't make them less Canadian.
I don’t think it is ever possible to judge an entire ethnic group. Moreover, for some reason, I have had much more personal contact with Sinhalese than Tamils. I am not sure why this is, it has just worked out that way. I have no idea what proportion of Tamil immigrants are Canadian citizens and if they are Canadian citizens, I have no idea whether it is a matter of convenience or not. Even if I did have statistics on these issues, I would not feel comfortable answering a poll that places them all in one homogenous category. I think that you really should have had a category for “other”.
This has got me wondering why I have had more close contact with Sinhalese than Tamils when there are supposed to be more Tamils in Canada than Singalese.
This has got me wondering why I have had more close contact with Sinhalese than Tamils when there are supposed to be more Tamils in Canada than Singalese.
There's no 'real' Canadian anymore..........
I remember when I was a kid back in the early 60's everything had a definite British slant. Canada was overwhelmingly white and took definite pride in its British roots. I remember when we wanted to look at the 'ethnics' we went to little Italy to eat gelato. How times have changed!
If these same Canadians now worry about who is real and who isn't they should think first about who they voted for. Lester Pearson, then Pierre Trudeau opened up the floodgates to third world immigration in the late sixties and early to mid seventies. As I recall, these two politicians always enjoyed overwhelming support from the electorate, Trudeau especially.
So what are you crying about now? You voted in these governments. You supported their policies. You now have the results. Get over it. It's too late for any hand-wringing. Your country no longer has an identity. It's now a multi-racial entity and we all have to get along if we want our society to work.
I remember when I was a kid back in the early 60's everything had a definite British slant. Canada was overwhelmingly white and took definite pride in its British roots. I remember when we wanted to look at the 'ethnics' we went to little Italy to eat gelato. How times have changed!
If these same Canadians now worry about who is real and who isn't they should think first about who they voted for. Lester Pearson, then Pierre Trudeau opened up the floodgates to third world immigration in the late sixties and early to mid seventies. As I recall, these two politicians always enjoyed overwhelming support from the electorate, Trudeau especially.
So what are you crying about now? You voted in these governments. You supported their policies. You now have the results. Get over it. It's too late for any hand-wringing. Your country no longer has an identity. It's now a multi-racial entity and we all have to get along if we want our society to work.
danmand said:
That doesn't seem to be the case in the many Tamil threads..... and the poll is now 50/50 yes an no... perhaps you don't know your neighbors as well as you think.
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Haha, I over heard this woman with a thick British accent complaining about all the "bloody foreginers" on the subway the other day.
onthebottom said:
Sadly, idiotic opinions are not exclusive to americans.
The canadian constitution is clear: There is only one kind of canadians.
(forgetting for a minute first nation people)
No stupid poll can change that. Or do you believe the US constitution can be
overridden by polls?
Ok so what was a "real" Canadian. A white person of British descent? I know it's cliche but really we're all immigrants or descendants of immigrants unless you're a descendant of an Aboriginal.Ulan Bator said:
You don't want them here, then you can take their jobs and flip MacBurgers for $10.00 per hour. Canada needs 100,000 new immigrants a year to do jobs "real" Canadians won't do at wages "real" Canadians would never accept.
Look around you, guys. You have some vision of a white, Christian, traditional Canada. Toronto hasn't been like that for two decades. So who is "real" now and who isn't.
Every one of my favourite escorts over the last 6 years has spoken with a heavy foreign accent. Are those gorgeous, smart women "real" Canadians? You guys lining up to kick them out of this country?
I'd have a microscopic tidgen of sympathy for this thread if "newcomers" were a small drop in the Canadian cultural ocean. But they aren't. The visible minorities are now the visible majority in this city.
So white boys, get over yourselves!
Look around you, guys. You have some vision of a white, Christian, traditional Canada. Toronto hasn't been like that for two decades. So who is "real" now and who isn't.
Every one of my favourite escorts over the last 6 years has spoken with a heavy foreign accent. Are those gorgeous, smart women "real" Canadians? You guys lining up to kick them out of this country?
I'd have a microscopic tidgen of sympathy for this thread if "newcomers" were a small drop in the Canadian cultural ocean. But they aren't. The visible minorities are now the visible majority in this city.
So white boys, get over yourselves!
Tamil describes an ethnic origin, like Cajun, Mohawk, Tutsi, Navajo …, whatever.
Some ethnic descriptors, like Hawaiian, before the US annexation can also be national citizenships. Quibble all we like over Itallian, Danish etc. as ethnicities.
There are Tamil-Americans, just as there are Tamil-Canadians and Tamils all over Europe.
Are Tamils "Real Americans"?
Some ethnic descriptors, like Hawaiian, before the US annexation can also be national citizenships. Quibble all we like over Itallian, Danish etc. as ethnicities.
There are Tamil-Americans, just as there are Tamil-Canadians and Tamils all over Europe.
Are Tamils "Real Americans"?
Ulan Bator said:
You have no idea!
Italians had been immigrating to Canada since the 10's but there was no acceptance for them as part of Canadian society until the mid 60's. Prior to that the Anglo majority viewed them as olive skinned niggers who had to know their place. It was either work or go back to Italy. They were not entitled to citizenship nor were they allowed to congregate in public places.
Italian stone masons built Maple Leaf Gardens but were not allowed to attend events there until the late 50's. The tide turned when Prime Minister Deifenbaker refused to recognize the victims of the Hoggs Hollow Disaster as Canadians. Citizenship was only granted with the election of Pearson and Italians immigrants still had to wait 9 years to become citizens of Canada.
http://www.toronto.ca/archives/pipedreams/hoggfrm.htm
gramage said:
I agree with your first point, they are Canadian, but not so much with your second.
My parents are from Asia and I was born here, yet I don't say I am Asian-Canadian. I just consider myself Canadian. We can accept, appreciate, and embrace that Canada is made up different backgrounds, but people can't always bring their issues here.
