9/11 Fourteen Years Later

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Oh poor Fuji, this is news to me as well. LOL

Fuji, you were going with pancake theory (as per NIST), it seems like they changed their story on the issue.
Since you praise NIST and believe them to be true, will you be changing your stance as well?

They claim it was the simultaneous collapse of the cores, but they have not released the model to show exactly how that happened.
How shocking and not the least bit surprising.:rolleyes:

Doh!


5:31 in the video if you please

 

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Just as the twin towers fell under complete bullshit reasoning.
WTC 7 fell under the exact same conditions, not "fire", not "debris", but demolition, STRAIGHT down.
ONE COLUMN in the corner is compromised and the building just goes straight down? LOL

You mean to tell me you TRULY HONESTLY think that fires and debris brought down a building uniformly, SYMMETRICALLY straight down? (repeating it for a reason)
Hold on a second. You just posted a map showing the towers did not fall straight down. Now you are claiming they feel straight down symmetrically. (and where the fuck do you get symmetrically from anyways?)

I do notice you offer absolutely no mechanism to explain how debris could be directed to target specific buildings though.


How about this? You light the corners of 100 pieces of paper and drop them off a 100 story building. Do you think the ashes will fall symmetrically? Hell, drop 100 marbles off the top and tell me if the fall symmetrically. Tip 100 bricks off a platform at the top?

Or since you like the idea of explosions, place an explosive in a pile of bricks 100 stories up and see where they end up after the explosion. I can guarantee you an uneven distribution in all of those cases.
 

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The US killed Arafat? And when was he a friend of the US?

Qaddafi was never a friend of the US either and it was the Europeans that went to war with him.
 

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Hold on a second. You just posted a map showing the towers did not fall straight down. Now you are claiming they feel straight down symmetrically. (and where the fuck do you get symmetrically from anyways?)

I do notice you offer absolutely no mechanism to explain how debris could be directed to target specific buildings though.


How about this? You light the corners of 100 pieces of paper and drop them off a 100 story building. Do you think the ashes will fall symmetrically? Hell, drop 100 marbles off the top and tell me if the fall symmetrically. Tip 100 bricks off a platform at the top?

Or since you like the idea of explosions, place an explosive in a pile of bricks 100 stories up and see where they end up after the explosion. I can guarantee you an uneven distribution in all of those cases.
Did you listen to this video ???? Or are you just in denial ???
 

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Did you listen to this video ???? Or are you just in denial ???
Sorry but what point are you trying to make?

Are you suggesting that your fanciful nuclear detonation should have caused a perfectly symmetrical debris pattern? :eyebrows:
 

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Hold on a second. You just posted a map showing the towers did not fall straight down. Now you are claiming they feel straight down symmetrically. (and where the fuck do you get symmetrically from anyways?)
I'll use Fuji's words "look at the videos online, anyone with eyes can see for themselves".

I gave you my stance, it was a demolition, because no amount of debris could bring down a building in such a uniform fashion.
Nor could a compromised column in the corner of a the building, nor could fires (which are not uniform) when burning, especially in offices with various objects in its path.

As for my paper burning example, it was to show you how a fire in one area (corner) could not uniformly destroy that paper straight across.
You have debris falling, anyone with eyes can see that on YouTube, but the majority of the TWO TOWERS, fall STRAIGHT down with some debris of course.
Then according to your belief, the debris and fires somehow did this to a building.




I hope I don't have to tell you which building is WTC 7? :)
 

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Sorry but what point are you trying to make?

Are you suggesting that your fanciful nuclear detonation should have caused a perfectly symmetrical debris pattern? :eyebrows:
The government you admire are shitting all over you. But I guess for you thats OK.
 

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The government you admire are shitting all over you. But I guess for you thats OK.

No, he's just controlled "debris" (sheep) and ready to blow like an explosive in one of the 3 WTC towers which were all brought down by two planes.
 

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You can see from any YouTube video that this "YouTube expert" is flat out wrong. You can literally see the building pancakes. It does not fall into its foundation.
NIST, those guys at the government who you believe to be correct. The guys with "experts", well, they don't think that anymore.
So do you care to change your story on how this happened?
If the "youtube" experts are so bad, how would you grade NIST's experts?
How do you grade yourself? LOL

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm
NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.


Fuji, honestly, if this topic ever comes up again, don't post in it.
It'd be pretty bold on your part when you just put your foot in your ass, only to follow it up with putting it in your mouth. :(
 
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