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'Who's the cleanest of them all'

Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the United States of America. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never signed the Kyoto Protocol some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don’t have a cap and trade carbon emission program. That evironmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That’s especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent — so we had more growth and less pollution — the best of all worlds.

The major reason for the reduced pollution levels is the shale oil and gas revolution that is transitioning the world to cheap and clean natural gas for electric power generation.

Meanwhile, as our emissions fell, the pollution levels rose internationally and by a larger amount than in previous years. So much for the rest of the world going green.

The world’s largest emitter of carbon dioxide emissions is China. According to the invaluable Institute for Energy Research, “China produces 28 percent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions. India is the world’s third largest emitter of carbon dioxide and had the second largest increment (93 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide emissions in 2017, more than twice as much an increase as the U.S. reduction.”

For every ton of reduced pollution the United States emits, China and India produce almost 10 more tons. This means it doesn’t really matter how much America reduces its greenhouse gases because China and India cancel out any and all progress we make.

Those who think they are helping save the planet by purchasing an electric car, or putting a solar panel on their roof, or trying to shut down coal production in the United States are barking up the wrong tree. If we want to stop greenhouse gases, there is no way to make progress without China and India on board — which they clearly are not.

This latest data also demonstrates that despite all of the criticism across the globe and in the American media, President Trump was completely right to pull the United States out of the flawed Paris accord. That might be one of the most universally violated treaties of all time — which is saying a lot. The chart below shows that nearly every nation that signed on to the Paris Accord and has admonished America for not getting in, has already broken its promises.

Not a single EU nation is within 80 percent of its respective target for emission reduction, according to Climate Action Network Europe (CANE). In its official EU report, CANE said “All EU countries are failing to increase their climate action in line with the Paris Agreement goal.” All but five countries aren’t even at 50 percent of their current targets.

So there you have it. The countries in the Paris climate agreement have broken every promise they’ve made and the nation that hasn’t signed the treaty is doing more than any other nation to reduce global warming. Yet, we are being lectured by the sanctimonious Europeans and Asians for not doing our fair share to save the planet. It’s another case study in how the left cares far more about good intentions than actual results. What matters is that you say that you will wash the dishes, not that you actually do it.
 

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Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That’s especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent — so we had more growth and less pollution — the best of al
Is this the same BP who took a major PR hit for the huge oil spill and is trying to get back into the good graces of the country.

I have my doubts as to whether this was an unbiased study.
 

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Even that pitiful reduction was largely achieved by ending the burning of coal for electricity. And was nowhere near what was needed to flatten out the rate of warming and climate change. Thanks to Donny even that teensy bit of progress is already being reversed. Enjoy your meaningless moment of smugness.
 

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'Who's the cleanest of them all'

Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the United States of America. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never signed the Kyoto Protocol some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don’t have a cap and trade carbon emission program. That evironmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That’s especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent — so we had more growth and less pollution — the best of all worlds.

The major reason for the reduced pollution levels is the shale oil and gas revolution that is transitioning the world to cheap and clean natural gas for electric power generation.

Meanwhile, as our emissions fell, the pollution levels rose internationally and by a larger amount than in previous years. So much for the rest of the world going green.

The world’s largest emitter of carbon dioxide emissions is China. According to the invaluable Institute for Energy Research, “China produces 28 percent of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions. India is the world’s third largest emitter of carbon dioxide and had the second largest increment (93 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide emissions in 2017, more than twice as much an increase as the U.S. reduction.”

For every ton of reduced pollution the United States emits, China and India produce almost 10 more tons. This means it doesn’t really matter how much America reduces its greenhouse gases because China and India cancel out any and all progress we make.

Those who think they are helping save the planet by purchasing an electric car, or putting a solar panel on their roof, or trying to shut down coal production in the United States are barking up the wrong tree. If we want to stop greenhouse gases, there is no way to make progress without China and India on board — which they clearly are not.

This latest data also demonstrates that despite all of the criticism across the globe and in the American media, President Trump was completely right to pull the United States out of the flawed Paris accord. That might be one of the most universally violated treaties of all time — which is saying a lot. The chart below shows that nearly every nation that signed on to the Paris Accord and has admonished America for not getting in, has already broken its promises.

Not a single EU nation is within 80 percent of its respective target for emission reduction, according to Climate Action Network Europe (CANE). In its official EU report, CANE said “All EU countries are failing to increase their climate action in line with the Paris Agreement goal.” All but five countries aren’t even at 50 percent of their current targets.

So there you have it. The countries in the Paris climate agreement have broken every promise they’ve made and the nation that hasn’t signed the treaty is doing more than any other nation to reduce global warming. Yet, we are being lectured by the sanctimonious Europeans and Asians for not doing our fair share to save the planet. It’s another case study in how the left cares far more about good intentions than actual results. What matters is that you say that you will wash the dishes, not that you actually do it.
I have no idea whether any of that is correct but assuming that it is any reduction by the US is in spite of this Administration not because of it.
 

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Does reversing the ban on Asbestos also count as making America Cleaner.

I fail to see any rationale or reason for making the use of Asbestos something the President want to encourage. It is pure idiocy.
 

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Even that pitiful reduction was largely achieved by ending the burning of coal for electricity. And was nowhere near what was needed to flatten out the rate of warming and climate change. Thanks to Donny even that teensy bit of progress is already being reversed. Enjoy your meaningless moment of smugness.
No criticism for the all talk no walk Euros, Canukes and Chinese?
 

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No criticism for the all talk no walk Euros, Canukes and Chinese?
Unfortunately there is a group of members on this board who will criticize any positive news from the USA. When it has been shown that the other countries who participated in that initiative are failing drastically, well they get a bye because they are not the USA.

Too bad that so many climate change supporters turn a complete blind eye to China and India.
 

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No criticism for the all talk no walk Euros, Canukes and Chinese?
I've got some issues with this post. First, you did not write it. It's from the Washington Times and you should have attributed it.

Second, you did not bother to check the raw data in the report. If you had, you would have discovered that UK carbon emissions dropped by 2.7% in 2017...far higher than the .5% touted for the US in 2017.
 

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No criticism for the all talk no walk Euros, Canukes and Chinese?
When someone bleats and boasts about them as you did about the US, I'll weigh in, but since you asked: A couple of tidbits (my emphases) from the report I found, which I can only hope is the one you failed to cite.

USA: A fully developed country, fully able to afford the best choices
• US-Production of every energy form increased, led by oil (+5.4%), coal [increased] (+6.9%), and renewables in power (+14.3%).
• CO2 emissions from energy use fell by 0.5%, compared with the 10-year average decline of 1.2%. [in other words, the slowed decline amounts to a more than double increase in CO2 emission, compared to what was being achieved the year and decade before]

CHINA: A still developing country, making expedient choices
• The share of coal in China’s primary energy mix declined to 60.4% in 2017 from 62.0% in 2016 and 74% just 10 years ago.
•China’s renewables consumption grew by 31% in 2017, accounting for 36.0% of global renewables consumption growth.
•+1.6% Growth in CO2 emissions, half the 10-year average — that is a greater reduction of CO2 than in the 10 years previous

The bias of the study's sponsor is obvious,. As you can see they don't trouble themselves to make their data presentations strictly comparable, but Europe, like China appears to have made more progress than the USA and is continuing at a faster rate.
 

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When someone bleats and boasts about them as you did about the US, I'll weigh in, but since you asked: A couple of tidbits (my emphases) from the report I found, which I can only hope is the one you failed to cite.

USA: A fully developed country, fully able to afford the best choices
• US-Production of every energy form increased, led by oil (+5.4%), coal [increased] (+6.9%), and renewables in power (+14.3%).
• CO2 emissions from energy use fell by 0.5%, compared with the 10-year average decline of 1.2%. [in other words, the slowed decline amounts to a more than double increase in CO2 emission, compared to what was being achieved the year and decade before]

CHINA: A still developing country, making expedient choices
• The share of coal in China’s primary energy mix declined to 60.4% in 2017 from 62.0% in 2016 and 74% just 10 years ago.
•China’s renewables consumption grew by 31% in 2017, accounting for 36.0% of global renewables consumption growth.
•+1.6% Growth in CO2 emissions, half the 10-year average — that is a greater reduction of CO2 than in the 10 years previous

The bias of the study's sponsor is obvious,. As you can see they don't trouble themselves to make their data presentations strictly comparable, but Europe, like China appears to have made more progress than the USA and is continuing at a faster rate.

You are mixing apples and oranges and tomatoes . You are comparing absolute growth rates (US) with share rates (China). You are also ignoring that the US emissions are actually falling while China / India are increasing. The growth rate of a specific source (renewables) is often sited because it’s such a small number in absolute terms.

All the hyperventilating about the US pulling out of Paris was nonsense. We are walking the walk (and have been for more than a decade) vs the rest are just talking.
 

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Unfortunately there is a group of members on this board who will criticize any positive news from the USA. When it has been shown that the other countries who participated in that initiative are failing drastically, well they get a bye because they are not the USA.

Too bad that so many climate change supporters turn a complete blind eye to China and India.
Napoleon Complex.
 

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You are mixing apples and oranges and tomatoes . You are comparing absolute growth rates (US) with share rates (China). You are also ignoring that the US emissions are actually falling while China / India are increasing. The growth rate of a specific source (renewables) is often sited because it’s such a small number in absolute terms.

All the hyperventilating about the US pulling out of Paris was nonsense. We are walking the walk (and have been for more than a decade) vs the rest are just talking.
I'm struggling with the apples and tomatoes comparison of your source.

It unequivocally says China's rate of CO2 emissions in 2017 was half what it had been for the ten years previously, while the US had failed to do as well as its ten year average by more than 50%. That means that although both nations are increasing, China's rate is improving as significantly as America's is worsening. Why didn't you go back to your own source and cite their numbers for proportion of energy from renewables?

The US has never walked the walk in any really important way, and now the only talk is about undoing the little leadership it did give — you did know that creating the now crumbling EPA was a Nixon boast — and indeed that walk to cheap, polluting profit is the only walk it's 'leaders' will tolerate for long. Note that as China decreases coal use, the US increases it.
 

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I'm struggling with the apples and tomatoes comparison of your source.

It unequivocally says China's rate of CO2 emissions in 2017 was half what it had been for the ten years previously, while the US had failed to do as well as its ten year average by more than 50%. That means that although both nations are increasing, China's rate is improving as significantly as America's is worsening. Why didn't you go back to your own source and cite their numbers for proportion of energy from renewables?

The US has never walked the walk in any really important way, and now the only talk is about undoing the little leadership it did give — you did know that creating the now crumbling EPA was a Nixon boast — and indeed that walk to cheap, polluting profit is the only walk it's 'leaders' will tolerate for long. Note that as China decreases coal use, the US increases it.
Perhaps this will help:

China’s carbon emissions set for fastest growth in 7 years
https://www.ft.com/content/98839504-6334-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

The US has declining real emissions with a fast growing large economy, we are the only country walking the walk.
 

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Perhaps this will help:

China’s carbon emissions set for fastest growth in 7 years
https://www.ft.com/content/98839504-6334-11e8-90c2-9563a0613e56

The US has declining real emissions with a fast growing large economy, we are the only country walking the walk.
What was wrong with the first source? How many are you going to ask me to look up for you. The US rate of decline has decreased by more than 50%. Indeed that is still an absolute decline, but it's also more emissions going into the air earth and water than you managed the year before. Still a failing grade, and you've done lots better lotsa times.

No country is really walking the walk, and the US is way down the even on the Medal For Showing Up list.
 

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What was wrong with the first source? How many are you going to ask me to look up for you. The US rate of decline has decreased by more than 50%. Indeed that is still an absolute decline, but it's also more emissions going into the air earth and water than you managed the year before. Still a failing grade, and you've done lots better lotsa times.

No country is really walking the walk, and the US is way down the even on the Medal For Showing Up list.
I think you should google the word decline for a definition.

China’s emissions are increasing (hint, opposite of decline) so you siting them tells me you have apples-oranges-tomato logical problem.
 

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You can't just run away from the your own sources. If you are not disavowing your original source, you need to address the data in that source that oldjones cites.
Not at all, does this make you feel better?

https://www.bp.com/en/global/corpor...cal-review-of-world-energy/co2-emissions.html

Carbon emissions from energy use from the US are the lowest since 1992, the year that the UNFCCC came into existence. The next largest decline was in Ukraine (-10.1%).

The largest increase in carbon emissions in 2017 came from China (1.6%), a reversal from the past three years when the largest increases in emissions came from India. China’s emissions in 2017 were 0.3% higher than the previous peak in 2014. China has had the world’s largest increments in carbon emission every year this century except in four years – 2000 and between 2014-16.
 

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Not at all, does this make you feel better?

https://www.bp.com/en/global/corpor...cal-review-of-world-energy/co2-emissions.html

Carbon emissions from energy use from the US are the lowest since 1992, the year that the UNFCCC came into existence. The next largest decline was in Ukraine (-10.1%).

The largest increase in carbon emissions in 2017 came from China (1.6%), a reversal from the past three years when the largest increases in emissions came from India. China’s emissions in 2017 were 0.3% higher than the previous peak in 2014. China has had the world’s largest increments in carbon emission every year this century except in four years – 2000 and between 2014-16.
That is wonderful statistics. Is that the reason Trump is trying to reverse the trend?

USA has 10 times the carbon emissions per capita as China. Does that make USA the cleanest of them all?
 

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That is wonderful statistics. Is that the reason Trump is trying to reverse the trend?

USA has 10 times the carbon emissions per capita as China. Does that make USA the cleanest of them all?
Trump is letting the states set the regulation as the Obama regulation was halted by the courts.

USA has 2.35 times the emissions Per Capita that China does, but China is a poor country, the USA has 3.56 times the Per Capita GDP. So on a emissions per $ of GDP the US is much cleaner. I’ve said for some time, want to cut your emissions, burn half your money.

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmi.../each-countrys-share-of-co2.html#.W4C-iBopDmp

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

You can see the emissions per $ of GDP here (old data): https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.KD.GD?end=2014&locations=US-CN&start=2014&view=map
 

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Sorry, I used old data.

In 2016 USA carbon emissions was 15.56 ton CO2 per capita, which is higher than most other developed countries.

Germany 9.47, Denmark 6.66 Japan 9.68 France 5.12 UK 5.59 China 7.45

USA is hardly the cleanest of them all.
 
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