ZEITGEIST - Blew my mind

[baci2004]

http://www.google.ca/search?q=zeitgeist+refuted&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

I just browsed 6 pages of search results from your link and I didn't notice anything on chapters 2 & 3 only chapter 1. I visited a couple boards and all I saw was a bunch of Christians with their knickers in a knot. If you want to believe in the invisible man in the sky and his son go right ahead. Quite frankly I don't even know why they bothered including chapter 1 in the film? Their whole point was to show how religion is used to control 'the people'. Big surprise?...not.

As far as chapter 2 goes people will be arguing and debating the events of 9/11 long after we are both gone. I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe. I'm sure many points in the film made about that day can be refuted and many can't be....whatever.

Chapter 3 is the most important part and the only part worth watching IMO. Christianity is not going anywhere anytime soon and the events of 9/11 have past and no one is ever really going to know the absolute truth anyway. However the banking and monetary system is something that is real, something that we are all going to live with for the rest of our lives, and something that most people know very little about. It is the most eye-opening part of the film and certainly helps explain a lot about what's going on in the world today.

Show me a link that disproves a single family controls the Federal Reserve in the U.S. and I'll start listening.

 

[basketcase]

One of the links (the second one) has a critique of the entire movie including the 9/11 stuff (of which there has been a ton of evidence contradicting the conspiracy theories though created well in advance of this movie) and the world bank (ditto).

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/debunked-zeitgeist-parts-i-ii-and-iii/
(original source - http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/)



On your quote

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Show me a link that disproves a single family controls the Federal Reserve in the U.S. and I'll start listening.

The site has on-point comments.

Good luck to anyone using this information to try to talk sense into someone.

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That said, a lot of people claim that "I do not believe everything in the movie, but this thing seems true to me, so you should watch it." Just because something of substance might be found, does not make it a good / factual movie. For example, if I have a pie, and I fill it with dirt and put a slice of apple in it, it does not make it an apple pie -- though some would claim so. If I can't find any information in the film to be true, I will say so, however sometimes people who criticize me say that if I "can't prove it isn't true, then it must be true". I'm sorry, that isn't how science works.

 

[basketcase]

On part 3 (from the above link)

If anyone has looked on the forums of the Internet as of late, it seems as thought Part III is the most commonly believed; you typically hear things like "Well, Part I - I'm not too sure about, Part II may be/is not true, but I know Part III is true!" How do these people know? If they know, why not more people? Well, I decided to look into it myself.

http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-three/

Samples

Supposèd Quotes

The founding fathers of this country were well aware of this:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies... If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

Instead of telling us the date of the quote or where it's from, the film just tells us the birth and death years of the person -- which is less than helpful. When searching for it, I noticed it was attributed to a letter that simply didn't exist. I did find letters that supposedly contained this quote[8] But the other sentences in these letters were actually from different letters to different people[9]. The entire quote in the film cannot be attributed to Thomas Jefferson, at all, anywhere. I searched all his complete works. It was fabricated from somewhere as far as I can tell. In letters, though, I did find that Thomas Jefferson was worried about banks being able to create their own currency, the exact thing the Central Bank system prevents[9].

"If you want to remain the slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nation's credit."

- Sir Josiah Stamp (1880-1941)

This quote is completely inaccurate, here is the real quote:

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."[10]

The quote from the film is worded to make it appear as though Stamp was talking about credit and Central Banking, rather he was talking about people putting their money in banks at all, Central or not.

The section on part 3 is quite lengthy (about 17,000 words + includes sources) but it appears that the writer took a lot more time researching than the makers of the movie did.