Young COVIDIOTS

[kherg007]

Ok Juan now we can discuss. Because the govt scientists - in this case Fauci & Birks - are being contradicted by the gov't (in this case the President). Fauci & Birks have 30-40 year track records, some of the better records in fact. At this point the manipulator is the President, who is retweeting clips of alien DNA lady and anyone who goes for HCQ. Thus he has his conclusion, and I'll argue it's a position that will help him get reelected, vs Fauci, who has a 40 year track record of credibility and really has nothing to prove.

There are different ways to draw conclusions, but the scientific method has been by far the best way. Science is open - methods and data must be disclosed - and reviewed by independent experts. Science is self correcting - if a fraudulent result sneaks through, other scientists can test it and when no one can replicate the result then reveals the fraud. More often than not, it's not fraud but the limitation of the study or failing to take an important factor into account.

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[glamphotographer]

It won't be TikTok because Trumpfart is butt hurt by Sarah Cooper and pretending it's because of the Chinese ownership.

Microsoft wants to buy Tik Tok. It's more about Americans buying the money-making machine from China.

 

[squeezer]

This is where we disagree. The "government" is manipulating the science to fit their narrative. It's not difficult to find "scientists" who after all are just people and most have a price and will gladly sell out for money or recognition. And with the backing of MSM no one is

going to dare to speak out in fear of loosing their job and security. Any why would they? And the most important thing is that there is no difference between the government that supposingly lets the science lead vs Trump ( I assume that's who you meant when you

said: "politicians who say "it will magically go away") because they are all the same and working for the same cause. They just want us to believe that there is a difference, where there is none. It's only to divide people so they will argue as we are doing right now and

not think and look at what is really going on. Divide and rule still works today.

Juan' World from a Goodman's perspective-

DO NOT follow or listen to any news from any source
DO NOT trust Government
DO NOT trust the medical profession
DO NOT trust scientist
DO NOT trust anyone truly qualified in their field as they have been bought and paid for

Do Trust a terbie conspiracy monger because in Juan's World it's like bowl of chocolate.

 

[basketcase]

And repeating "tinfoil" doesn't change anything. It only makes you sound like Rain man "about a 100 dollars, about a 100 dollars"

Clearly you don't understand movies any better than you understand fiction. The guy in Rain Man may be autistic but he's also a savant. That means he's smart enough to listen to experts.

 

[basketcase]

This is where we disagree. The "government" is manipulating the science to fit their narrative....

And you wonder why the term tinfoil comes in to these discussions.

The beautiful thing about science is the information is all out there. It is quite easy to find academic papers online but many people would rather complain others are sheep or zombies while basing their opinion on some random internet post.

 

[kherg007]

Sorry mate but I disagree with your statements. When you talk about scientific methods, you basically are saying how it should be in a perfect, fantasy world but the reality is much different. There are many examples of how scientific studies came to totally wrong

conclusions to help the big business that payed for them. Look at all the studies in nutrition and what supposingly is good for us. Depending on who payed for those studies they got positive results so they could lobby governments to have health policies changed.

When you look at medical studies that were done to promote certain drugs or medical procedures how many law suits came about after from wrong scientific conclusions.

Science is vital in human development but it's not innocent and pure as you like to believe. If there is a lot of money involved you can bet that there will be people (scientists) who will be willing to bend the truth a little or a lot for their own benefit.

As to Fauci, he also is not as innocent and clean as you think. Not too long ago there was a video posted here with an interview with Dr.Mikovits who apparently worked closely with him and has a very different take on his honesty than you do.

As for Trump I know that you and all the liberals have a hard on for him but in my opinion he was chosen to be the president just for that purpose. He definitely is a pompous ass but he is very polarizing and that is exactly what was required. Someone who will divide

us completely, to the point of some willing to physically assault the other side. Again "divide and rule". You can't seriously believe the mega corporations that are actually running US right now would allow a reality show clown to become the president and have their fate in

his hands and depend on his whim and fancy. You must admit that it would be childish to believe that. Military-industrial complex is worth trillions, that's some serious money. People get killed for that. Or how much is big pharma worth? Again very serious money.

They do not leave anything to chance, that's for sure.

JG no not a perfect fantasy world. But the scientific method is what moved humanity out of the dark ages. Information gets better and better. Just look around you - modern medicine and technology and engineering better than ever. And it was science, not aliens or ghosts (i know you are NOT arguing that) that gave this. Not perfect, but better than any other approach. Now - divide and rule? I might agree with you there lol.