YMMV??? Appreciated it or detested it???

[Maria Divina]

Lately, I began to wonder if Gentlemen are appreciating much more a lady who is qualified as YMMV that another one lady who is stricly doing, by example, what it takes to be conform at the GFE standard definition....

In my thought, a YMMV lady is someone who is doing what she would like to live at a particular time with someone she is appreciating to.

I would like to see what gentlemen think about it ( of course...), but also, if some ladies had some feedback on this subject, you are welcome to share them.

Thank you.
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[train]

Anyone who purchases a service, particularly an expensive service, feels more comfortable in knowing up front what exactly he is buying. This is only logical I believe.

Having said that I think that most people understand ymmv and the sp's right to restrict service when it comes to things such as hygene or ungentlemanly behaviour.

To restrict service because the client is a 6/10 in looks or is a red head and the sp hates red heads is less acceptable.

 

[Maria Divina]

Anyone who purchases a service, particularly an expensive service, feels more comfortable in knowing up front what exactly he is buying. This is only logical I believe.

Having said that I think that most people understand ymmv and the sp's right to restrict service when it comes to things such as hygene or ungentlemanly behaviour.

To restrict service because the client is a 6/10 in looks or is a red head and the sp hates red heads is less acceptable.

What I wanted to say, it is totally not to decrease the "services" you should expected... It was more to let the lady, if she may feels some others fantasies in the heat of the moment and (if you agree to share it too...of course ...) to have the possibility to live it instead of something who is on an, by example, "official checklist of the perfect GFE"...???...

Don't you think that an experience of quality is much more important that the services???

 

[tboy]

If I understand your question correctly (and it is a little convoluted) I think you're asking: do we appreciate it when an sp gives that little unexpected extra or do we want to know upfront?

If that is the case then yes, I do appreciate the unexpected as I've had more than a few SP's who have gone that extra distance with me. One expressed her interest in trying a trip to the islands and another who had a "no kissing" policy just let fly and just about orally ravaged me lol Both were extremely pleasant surprises.

But as stated, at the hourly rate that is currently the norm here in Toronto one does need to know what to expect for the money being exchanged. I for one would never pay this sort of coin if she was going to be a dead fish.

As for the ladies getting caught up in the moment, yes that's happened to me and those were some of the best experiences I've had.

I think what you're describing as the lady having a gfe checklist is kind of what EEs do. To me, it seems like they are a little more detached internally and I think many describe it as mechanical. Not all are this way as Cupids has some awesome EE ladies.

BTW: for the record, with EVERY sp no matter what she describes her services as, and what previous reviews have indicated, it is ALWAYS YMMV. This is a very intimate act and sometimes people just don't click, there could be physical characteristics to overcome that may prevent some services, and hygiene is a MAJOR determining factor.

 

[rama putri]

Anyone who purchases a service, particularly an expensive service, feels more comfortable in knowing up front what exactly he is buying. This is only logical I believe.

Having said that I think that most people understand ymmv and the sp's right to restrict service when it comes to things such as hygene or ungentlemanly behaviour.

To restrict service because the client is a 6/10 in looks or is a red head and the sp hates red heads is less acceptable.

How many friggen times do we have to tell you people ... SPs are not cars or electronics or freelance accountants or whatever. They are not governed by HR policy. They have no diversity requirements, no minority seeing guidelines to follow, no media training to take, no standard operating procedures, no specifications to be tested against, no quality assurance plans to abide to, no gauranteed return policy, no better business bureaus for sex workers, no start up checklists, no closeout punclists, no end user training manuals, no charitable giving rules for the losers and ugly, no philanthropy for the stupid, no immigration cards to fill in, etc ...

You're buying time from an escort. It's risky to begin with. Get it? YMMV

 

[MuffinMuncher]

BTW: for the record, with EVERY sp no matter what she describes her services as, and what previous reviews have indicated, it is ALWAYS YMMV. This is a very intimate act and sometimes people just don't click, there could be physical characteristics to overcome that may prevent some services, and hygiene is a MAJOR determining factor.

This sums it up beautifully, and train made some excellent points as well.

This entire business is YMMV because real people with real feelings and real emotional/physical responses are involved. A lady should advertise what she is willing to offer to her clients at her price, but should she choose to go above and beyond that for her own reasons, then by all means she should!

There are plenty of examples of both the "strict adherence to the menu" girls and the YMMV girls who do very well in the city. As long as the service delivered is never LESS than what is advertised to be available, the client has no right to bitch just because he wasnt lucky enough to get a little bit of extra sugar.

 

[Maria Divina]

I start this exchange on Merb too... ( my originate board review board...I'm from Montréal.....)....and a lot of people participated there and made some good points....

and the responses were also of 2 kinds....

Some worries about the services.....and some others prefere a "funny, recreative and participative woman experience"....

My conclusion about YMMV is this is not a good thing to be "tagged" with this acronym....because it could signifie a really good thing or, in contrario, a really bad one....

but here, in Ontario, it seems to be much bad than better, as I could see... Am I wrong???

 

[capncrunch]

Sometimes YMMV is used as an excuse by SPs to simply not provide quality service. But it's clearly a two-way street. If a client shows up unkempt and unhygenic, then he's got no right to complain if the SP refrains from certain activities.

Tboy's post, quoted by MuffinMuncher, pretty much says it all. When two people 'click,' it's like nothing else in the world. But if/when they don't, both parties should be adult enough to know it and govern themselves accordingly.

 

[tboy]

As for it being bad, I don't find that at all. In fact, in my experience, I've never had service downgraded on account of YMMV. Maybe I've been lucky? I can't say I haven't had a bad experience because I've had a few of those but I think it was more the lady being in the wrong business than YMMV.

 

[gwhiz]

What I wanted to say, it is totally not to decrease the "services" you should expected... It was more to let the lady, if she may feels some others fantasies in the heat of the moment and (if you agree to share it too...of course ...) to have the possibility to live it instead of something who is on an, by example, "official checklist of the perfect GFE"...???...QUOTE]

That is the type of surprise that I WOULD enjoy ! Feel free to surprise me like this anytime MD. No arm twisting required .

 

[a 1 player]

I always go in expecting the worst, and anything better than that is great. Very few disappointments this way for me.

 

[Mongrel4u]

How many friggen times do we have to tell you people ... SPs are not cars or electronics or freelance accountants or whatever. They are not governed by HR policy. They have no diversity requirements, no minority seeing guidelines to follow, no media training to take, no standard operating procedures, no specifications to be tested against, no quality assurance plans to abide to, no gauranteed return policy, no better business bureaus for sex workers, no start up checklists, no closeout punclists, no end user training manuals, no charitable giving rules for the losers and ugly, no philanthropy for the stupid, no immigration cards to fill in, etc ...

No but they do work in an industry that has very few barriers to entry and are up against some STIFF competition.... Those two are enough to keep you on your toes. Further, they are charging a substantial fee....there are going to be some reasonable expectations. I dont know where you come from but here, people ( multimillionaire and pauper alike) dont just throw away $200.00 for no reason

I understand that no matter what industry you contract services in, no two experiences can be identical. However, if you are charging a good amount of money for a service one should have a good idea of what to expect within reasonable limits.... and if you fall short then you deserve the negative press.

If a lady goes above and beyond the expected services for what ever reason then so be it but dont go below reasonable expectations.

You're buying time from an escort. It's risky to begin with. Get it? YMMV

NO you are not... thats just some bullshit saying they all use because for some reason they are uncomfortable saying the truth..perhaps is psychological as it makes them feel like a "prostitute" ( go figure)..who knows; But you're buying SEX. Get it? How else can an individual who isnt a doctor, a lawyer or some other specialized professional justify charging you $250 odd quid just to talk about the weather???

 

[tboy]

No but they do work in an industry that has very few barriers ....

except maybe for a condom and that barrier is pretty thin at best heheheheh

to entry and are up against some STIFF competition.... ......

Well, if it ain't stiff, they can't do their job! lol...

SOrry, I just could NOT resist!!!

 

[The Options Menu]

I always go in expecting the worst, and anything better than that is great. Very few disappointments this way for me.

He he... You can tell you like SCs

I pretty much do the same-- I don't (at all regularly) gamble, but it's the "healthy gambler's mentality". Always go in expecting to lose it all, enjoy the ride for what it is, and if you don't loose it all, BONUS! Oh, and only play with what you (REALLY) can afford to lose

I believe that this is the best was to be involved in any segment of this hobby. It let's you keep a positive head-space and perspective. The biggest dangers in this hobby beyond disease are inflated, wrong, or just plain fucked up expectations.

 

[ExoticSpirit]

It seems like this is the only industry where YMMV.

 

[dajodo2]

In my thought, a YMMV lady is someone who is doing what she would like to live at a particular time with someone she is appreciating to.
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Maria Divina xx

That's fine and dandy if we are dating in the real world...not when I'm paying you.

Every johns money is the same, every johns services received should be as well.

Business is business.

 

[tboy]

It seems like this is the only industry where YMMV.

Not true. If you watch Holmes on Homes many times homeowners will use a contractor who was recommended by a friend who was pleased with his work yet don't have the same experience.

Since everyone is different it is impossible to please everyone in exactly the same manner. One person may thoroughly enjoy an sp and get along great with her and another may just "rub" her the wrong way.

For eg: I saw Eva from Diva once during the summer and it was rather warm. I was sweating a bit and she was like all testy because my sweat was actually getting on her. While another time I saw another sp and she was all slipping and sliding over me and appeared to be enjoying it.

 

[Maria Divina]

By example, if I am taking an existing situation.....

If a lady has a 3 pages of all glorious positives reviews, and she will announcing, on her future next website, that she is YMMV....

First, how could you understand a date with her could be???

Second, do you think that "label" could be something who could ruin her reputation unless all her great reviews???

and Tertio, will you be finally attracted to meet her or not???

Thank you, Gracias, Merci to all your franckly responses, so far away....

 

[tboy]

To me, even if a woman isn't listed as YMMV that acronym still applies. It isn't like all of a sudden she is a maybe or maybe not. I don't really care what she says on her site because from the responses here, and my experiences, some things just happen or don't happen.

I have had many sp's tell me it bugs the hell out of them when they enter the call and buddy has a shopping list (figuratively speaking) of what he wants her to do. Now it is a good idea for a guy to have a gameplan because some SP's love to chat away the hour but to say to a woman (any woman for that matter) that first I want you to blow me, then I want you to toss my salad, then I want dfk, then cowgirl then anal then....you get my drift.

I wouldn't get so hung up on the YMMV that is just viewed as a safeguard against unwanted activities.

As for previous reviews, they are the true tale of the tape as to what one can kind of expect from a date. For eg: an sp could be reviewed as giving the best bj on the planet and it wouldn't mean squat to me as I personally don't really care much for them. I'd much rather have her DFK me while she cums than anything else. Frankly I've had sp's who have come out and told me they don't DFK then lock one on me in the throes....so, once again a perfect example of YMMV.

 

[gwhiz]

I think that when an SP advertises a service as YMMV that she should be prepared to offer it if you are a gentleman and there are no unpleasant surprises. This should only be an indication of caution on her part that if she finds you to be less than gentlemanly, that she won't provide the service.

The alternatives are:

1) that she advertise the service without any YMMV qualification and then if she is given a very unwelcomed surprise, that she decline ( with the potential of an unpleasant conflict because she has ) or

2) not offer the service at all and if you are a delightful gentleman, that she shows her appreciation by going beyond her published menu and making it available to you. Wouldn't you feel special and delighted in that situation ? You will have an idea of the likelihood of this from other's reviews .

I believe that it is the 2nd alternative that MD is referring to.

We are all human. In my business, I have wanted to and felt obligated to provide a certain level of hopefully very good service to people in general; if they provide me with a superior client experience that makes me feel very good, then it is only natural that I may wish to try to make their experience just that much better, in order to show my appreciation. That could be providing them with something extra at no cost, an unrequested discount either now, or let them know that it is available to them for their future business.

The latter is more likely something that is possible for Independent SPs to do. I have experienced this personally . Needless to say, I have been very appreciative of that. It has made me feel special and resulted in my loyalty and desire to continue to see them. I know that there is a valued mutual chemistry between us which makes our time together just that much more comfortable and enjoyable .