Yes the church has over the past two thousand years done some really nasty stuff to alot of people Aboriginals in the New World, the sex abuse cases and so on but hmmmm you never hear about the good stuff the Chruch does, the defence of the poor and aiding their education. The helping of bringing down communism in Eastern Europe, people like Archbishop Romero in El Salvador and Mother Teresa in India, the assistance given to countless Jews by local priests during the Nazi geonicde, and so on, i am the kind of person that believes if you are gonna dig through the dirt and bring up things about a particular person or group of people, you have to bring it all up good and bad. thank you ranting and raving over now