Yi (or his handlers) refusing to play for the Bucks

Don

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What is up with that crap. I hope The Bucks don't give in. Sure it is best for the NBA, Yi, and China if he went to a city with more Chinese people but that is just wrong, to refuse to go because of racial or nationalistic issues. I thought it'd be best for the NHL and hockey in general if Sid was on a Canadian team but what can you do.
 

Smash

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Didnt Stevie Franchise refuse to play for Vancouver out of the draft?
 

Don

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John_E_Depth said:
Didnt Stevie Franchise refuse to play for Vancouver out of the draft?
A lot of players have refused. Steve Francis, John Elway, Eli Manning, etc... and it bugs the crap out of me. But the majority of the issues are over money or exposure or dislike of team management.
 

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Don said:
A lot of players have refused. Steve Francis, John Elway, Eli Manning, etc... and it bugs the crap out of me. But the majority of the issues are over money or exposure or dislike of team management.

This refusal is about exposure. His handlers want him to play in a market that has a sizeable asian population that he can be marketted towards. I also don't like his refusal any more than I like Francis, Lindros, etc. If teams were smart, they would refuse to bend and let the players try to find work outside of these respective leagues.

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BigBrian

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dumb move by the BUCKS, Yi would not even work out for them before the draft so they knew he did want to be drafted by them. Only Greg Oden and Kevin Durant are considered to be "cant misses" .He is not that good that he is worth all this hassle. Yi was projected to go as late as 10th or 11th by alot of scouts so he is not head and shoulders better than the others after Oden and Durant. The BUCKS took a chance by picking him 6th and passing on perhaps a better player and now the franchise looks totally stupid because they cant sign him. No wonder noone wants to go there.
 

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What if Greg Oden and Kevin Durant said "I do not want to play for Portland. I wan't to be in a major market like LA or NY." If you were the GM of the Blazers, would you go - well since he doesn't want to come here, lets give up on them and draft Noah instead.
 

maurice93

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guyroch said:
The difference between Yi and Lindros is Lindros was the census pick at
that draft position ... After the first two picks in this years draft it was
a crap shoot where everyone was going to go ... Oh by the way Bucks why
draft somebody who would have no intention of staying past his rookie contract ...
Maybe you should read the CBA and get an understanding of how it works before criticizing the GM.

If you knew the current CBA, you would know that a player can only be a restricted free agent after his rookie contract. In essence, the Bucks can match any offer made to him for at least the next three years after his rookie deal.
 

maurice93

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I agree with BigBrian & hard Idle.

I not sure of what happens behind the scenes of any draft, but you would think that the team would talk to the player or his agent before picking, especially early in the lottery. I'm still wondering why Quebec draft Lindros and Vancouver draft Francis?
I'm sure the Nords / Available are kicking themselves in the asses for accepting Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall. Mike Ricci, Jocelyn Thibault, and 10M of cash instead of the legendary Pat Falloon.
 

maurice93

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guyroch said:
I know that and they can only make the most money if they re-sign with their
present club ... What I meant by when Rookie contract is up is when their
become unrestricted free agents ... Hey but what Carter and Kobe and
Gasol prove is contracts don't mean anything when players frachise players
want out they will get out ..

Oh by the way ... The CBA is probaly 600 plus pages and so your right I don't
have the time to read that document but its a league run by the players and
the agents ..
Fair enough points.. if they want out they isially get it.
 

healer677

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If a drafted player doesn't want to play on the team that drafted them, they won't. Some do it for leverage, longer contract, more money, more promo exposure -whatever.

Point is -then why even bother with a draft? This is a joke and it makes me sick when players or their scumbag agents/reps pull this stunt on the fans.
 

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tersey said:
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He will be making more money than he can possibly spent in his lifetime while the majority of his country's people are supplying the rest of the world with cheap labour...
Maybe he just wants to make sure that it is one of his younger relatives sewing his new NBA jersey.
 

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The fact is that the Chinese Government has a say as to where he should play. Part of his pay has to go the Chnese Government. same thing is true for Yao Ming. Most of the media in China are quite pissed off at the Bucks, calling it a 'marriage by force'.So, don't put all the blame on Yi as most of you has never lived under a communist regime.

In my opinion, the Bucks Management took a big gamble, which in my opinion is not worth it, since the Bucks already has two young big men ( Villanueva and Bogart). I don't believe the addition of Yi will help the Bucks that much

Here is an update

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/268921.html
 

G_Bouchard

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From the Star:
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JUST A THOUGHT: This should get the chattering masses chattering.

Let's say that Mo Williams leaves Milwaukee for Miami, which isn't out of the realm of possibility, and the Bucks have no point guards on their roster.

Does Bryan Colangelo listen more intently when the Bucks call and ask about Jose Calderon? Of course, he asks for Yi Jianlian? And knowing how the Bucks are financially, does he have to add, say, Rasho Nesterovic and take back the horrific contract of Dan Gadzuric to get a deal done?

The possibility is intriguing, isn't it? All I know is every NBA scout or official I've talked to who's seen Yi says he's the real deal.

Speaking of Yi and the Bucks, it's hard to see a good side in this fight. Both are dopes.

The Bucks should never have taken him, the knew long before the draft that he didn't want to go there, it's not like he was the only decent player on the draft board for that spot and to provoke a fight like that is ridiculous.

And the only difference between Yi and Steve Francis, in my opinion, is that Yi didn't go on television and look like he'd just swallowed a worm when his name was called. He went into the draft knowing that he didn't get to pick his spot and he should just report.

The interesting thing is that precedent seems to be on Yi's side.

Not only did Francis weasel his way out of Vancouver, you can go back as far as current Cleveland GM Danny Ferry, who went to Italy rather than play for the Clippers, who eventually moved him to Cleveland for Ron Harper.




http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/234292
 

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Hard Idle said:
GM's who knowingly waste a pick like that should be fired immediately.
Players who buck the system (no pun intended) should rot on the sidelines.
 

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"It is important to Chinese officials that Yi receive significant playing time in his first NBA season."

"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said.

Yi sounds like more trouble than he is worth for ANY team. Whoever winds up with Yi gets the Chinese government for a coaching staff with him. I suppose they'll have to call up Hu Jintao before every substitution.
 
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