xcopper/pointts and such for tickets
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Stymie,
I used X-Copper once a few years back. I got a speeding ticket on the 407. According to the cop, I was doing 135km/hr, which is 35km/hr over the limit. He knocked it down to 25km/hr over. I believe the penalty was 3 points and a fine of approx. $130. I went to X-Copper and the cost of their representation was $300 plus GST (at the time). They go to traffic court on your behalf and in my case, I was not required to. Anyways, the outcome was no points but that I would have to pay a fine of approx. $50.
At the time, I thought it was great news since the points were removed. I later, discovered that the second you pay the fine, your insurance company will know that you've been convicted. The "fine" will affect your premiums, and if you get enough of them, your insurer may choose not to renew you.
The second time I got a ticket, I went myself. The ticket was for 21km/hr over the limit. The cop showed up on trial day but the crown offered me the same deal that X-Copper had achieved for me the first time. So I paid the $50 fine and have been ticket-free ever since. I still go over but I'm more selective now.
X-Copper's selling point to me was, "If I got a traffic ticket, I would definitely want someone to represent me". I was skeptical at the time when they said this to me, but I had never been to court before, so I signed up. The only way I would ever use X-Copper again or recommend them to anyone else is, if you are charged with a more serious traffic violation (i.e. 50km/hr over the limit, drinking and driving). The owner is a former copper and is a very knowledgeable guy.
I used X-Copper once a few years back. I got a speeding ticket on the 407. According to the cop, I was doing 135km/hr, which is 35km/hr over the limit. He knocked it down to 25km/hr over. I believe the penalty was 3 points and a fine of approx. $130. I went to X-Copper and the cost of their representation was $300 plus GST (at the time). They go to traffic court on your behalf and in my case, I was not required to. Anyways, the outcome was no points but that I would have to pay a fine of approx. $50.
At the time, I thought it was great news since the points were removed. I later, discovered that the second you pay the fine, your insurance company will know that you've been convicted. The "fine" will affect your premiums, and if you get enough of them, your insurer may choose not to renew you.
The second time I got a ticket, I went myself. The ticket was for 21km/hr over the limit. The cop showed up on trial day but the crown offered me the same deal that X-Copper had achieved for me the first time. So I paid the $50 fine and have been ticket-free ever since. I still go over but I'm more selective now.
X-Copper's selling point to me was, "If I got a traffic ticket, I would definitely want someone to represent me". I was skeptical at the time when they said this to me, but I had never been to court before, so I signed up. The only way I would ever use X-Copper again or recommend them to anyone else is, if you are charged with a more serious traffic violation (i.e. 50km/hr over the limit, drinking and driving). The owner is a former copper and is a very knowledgeable guy.
Stymie said:
Traffic Settlements
I used a Service for a ticket and the guy got the fine down but I think I could have done the same thing. I am going on Monday for another ticket. I am talking to the prosecutor and I am hoping to do something with the ticket so I'll let you know. Any provincial offence affects your insurance. I had a ticket for not having my insurance slip and my rates went up. That is crazy! How does that effect the insurance companies risk.
I used a Service for a ticket and the guy got the fine down but I think I could have done the same thing. I am going on Monday for another ticket. I am talking to the prosecutor and I am hoping to do something with the ticket so I'll let you know. Any provincial offence affects your insurance. I had a ticket for not having my insurance slip and my rates went up. That is crazy! How does that effect the insurance companies risk.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...37&t=TS_Home&DPL=IvsNDS/7ChAX&tacodalogin=yespeelcowboy said:
'Right to lawyer 'not absolute' for drinking drivers
CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA — Canada's highest court says the right to seek legal counsel is "not absolute" for drivers pulled over on suspicion of driving drunk.
The Supreme Court of Canada says two Manitoba men should be retried on charges of impaired driving.
Both were acquitted because police officers did not fully inform them of their rights before they agreed to — and failed — roadside sobriety tests.
The court says such rights are reasonably limited in cases where police are trying to keep drunks off the road.
The court says this is true even in provinces that haven't specifically laid out such limits in law.
In other words, drivers should know their rights in the province where they live.'
I was told, and maybe someone can confirm this for me. If you get a ticket for say... 125.00. You have the mail in option for the payment, so if you mail in a cheque for 130.00, then they owe you 5.00. Now why this is important is because they can not{this is what I heard} add the convistion to your record until they have refunded you the money they owe you. With how back-logged they are, this could take quite sometime. It will get on your record at some point time, but again from what I have heard, this can take a long time. Years even. The goal would for it to take 3 years, since that is how far back insurance companies go to search for tickets.stang5 said:
Can anyone cofirm? I have never done this. Haven't gotten a ticket to try it with.
HH
I used xcopper when I got into an accident a few years back. The case took over a year to get to court. The guy representing me didn't know anything about my case to even try to fight it because it was just handed to him that day (which led to a continuance because I insisted that my rep have some clue as to why i was trying to fight it). Basic result was a plea to a lessor charge that still involved me getting points and paying fine.
For the amount of extra time that went in to fighting the ticket, the fact that my rep knew nothiung about the case on the day of trial and the end result I did not feel like I got good value for the money.
For the amount of extra time that went in to fighting the ticket, the fact that my rep knew nothiung about the case on the day of trial and the end result I did not feel like I got good value for the money.
try http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.aspHappyHookers said:
it's an urban legend, and on top of which the government is more than happy to keep your money...
I've used both pointts and x-copper... x-copper did nothing for me other than getting it reduced from 36 over to 20 over, still got 3 points for it... pointts on the other hand, got me out of the ticket completely for a 75 in a 40... I'd use pointts again, but not x-copper
also, if you want to do it yourself, and are fairly fluent in french, make a request for french court... works pretty well in toronto... just ask the guy who got off of a ticket for making an illegal left turn because the sign wasn't bilingual
