Winter Tires and vibration in steering wheel

pencilneckgeek

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I recently went to my dealership and changed winter tires on my car. Now I feel vibration in my steering, more so at 80 km/hr. Any idea what could be the issue? I'm planning to call my dealership on Monday.

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Morpheous

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You'll get more road noise because the tires have a more aggressive tread pattern but you shouldn't get a vibration and if so, it would be ever so slight because again,the tread pattern. You're tires likely just need to be rebalanced. Provided of course that your care alignment was fine before the tire change.
 

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You'll get more road noise because the tires have a more aggressive tread pattern but you shouldn't get a vibration and if so, it would be ever so slight because again,the tread pattern. You're tires likely just need to be rebalanced. Provided of course that your care alignment was fine before the tire change.
Actually I was amazed that my new winter tires were quieter than my all seasons. To that point, I felt like you.
 

pencilneckgeek

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You'll get more road noise because the tires have a more aggressive tread pattern but you shouldn't get a vibration and if so, it would be ever so slight because again,the tread pattern. You're tires likely just need to be rebalanced. Provided of course that your care alignment was fine before the tire change.
I mean the difference in vibration is noticeable as compared to when i had summer tires. The package i took included tire change + balancing + alignment. Not sure if dealership did wheel balancing coz winter tires were already on separate wheels.
 

blackrock13

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I mean the difference in vibration is noticeable as compared to when i had summer tires. The package i took included tire change + balancing + alignment. Not sure if dealership did wheel balancing coz winter tires were already on separate rims.
There shouldn't be vibrations and you show think about balancing the tires almost every year, especially if you remember hitting a curb or especially a pot hole in this fair city of ours. Go back to the garage and tell them of your concerns. They could have done it incorrectly and should do it for free, if they stand behind their work.
 

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it is definitely a balance issue.

I had a car, years back, that would begin to vibrate at 80 MPH and level out around 110 MPH.

The balance machine at the dealership could only spin them to 65 MPH so not wobble was noticed.

I talked them into putting the wheels on an old fashioned BUBBLE BALANCER.

That did the trick.
 

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Personally I use all season tires.

And I plow with them too.
 

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Vibration at 80 kph is definately balancing, espically if the tires were already on the rims, the guy probably assumed they were fine and just put them on. I had the exact same thing last year. When you get up to speed on the highway the steering wheel begins to shake, then disappear at 120kmh. Have them double check it, espically if they mechanic who took them off didn't mark on the tire which one came from which wheel. And beyond that, you've done some driving without them on so you've changed your car slightly. Always balance your tires, and yes they will probably make more "noise" as it is a more aggresive tire, but the vibration shouldnt be there.
 

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If the vibration is sort of up and down and it is worse at a certain speed, balance is the most likely cause, and from your description it sounds as if that's it, no question. If you notice the steering wheel is vibrating side to side at all speeds it's belt separation, a much more serious problem that cannot be fixed, you would need a new tire.
 

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Have the tires rebalanced, they probably weren't balanced right.
 

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They probably took the winter tires that were on the rear last year and rotated them to the front. The tires were out of balance last year, but you didn't feel them because they were on the rear, which wouldn't transmit any of the vibration through the steering.

The tire doesn't have to be spun fast to find the imbalance. Because of the increase in tire size and larger aluminum rims, a normal dynamic balancer may not be able to completely eliminate the imbalance due to non vibration imbalances in the tire.

Look for a shop that uses a Hunter force balancer. It puts a load on the tire and can find the imbalance in the tire and rim separately. There are a couple in London. Williams Firestone Tire on Oxford East I think is one of the shops.


http://www.hunter.com/balancer/index.cfm
 

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If the vibration is sort of up and down and it is worse at a certain speed, balance is the most likely cause, and from your description it sounds as if that's it, no question. If you notice the steering wheel is vibrating side to side at all speeds it's belt separation, a much more serious problem that cannot be fixed, you would need a new tire.
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pencilneckgeek

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Vibration at 80 kph is definately balancing, espically if the tires were already on the rims, the guy probably assumed they were fine and just put them on. I had the exact same thing last year. When you get up to speed on the highway the steering wheel begins to shake, then disappear at 120kmh. Have them double check it, espically if they mechanic who took them off didn't mark on the tire which one came from which wheel. And beyond that, you've done some driving without them on so you've changed your car slightly. Always balance your tires, and yes they will probably make more "noise" as it is a more aggresive tire, but the vibration shouldnt be there.
I guess they did not balance the tires even though I paid for a package that included change + balance + alignment. Maybe they thought balancing was not needed as winter tires were already on rims. It's a high end luxury car and I went to the dealership. It's surprising they'll screw up like that. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow.
 

pencilneckgeek

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If the vibration is sort of up and down and it is worse at a certain speed, balance is the most likely cause, and from your description it sounds as if that's it, no question. If you notice the steering wheel is vibrating side to side at all speeds it's belt separation, a much more serious problem that cannot be fixed, you would need a new tire.
They are only 1 season old winter tires. I bought them last winter.
 

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The good news is that the dealer knows the car and the tires they sold you. No finger pointing on their part is allowed. You don't need the regular disaggregated advice from Board...just tell the dealer to fix the problem.
 

pencilneckgeek

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The good news is that the dealer knows the car and the tires they sold you. No finger pointing on their part is allowed. You don't need the regular disaggregated advice from Board...just tell the dealer to fix the problem.
Yeah, that's what I'll do even though they did not sell me the tires. They wanted $5500 for 4 winter tires + Rims. I bought them for less than half of that online from tirerack.com
 

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Yeah, that's what I'll do even though they did not sell me the tires. They wanted $5500 for 4 winter tires + Rims. I bought them for less than half of that online from tirerack.com
you have to much money
 

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On a somewhat related issue, I drove on "studded tires" a long time ago and found the ride rather bumpy and harder to steer. I assume that studded tires are illegal in Ontario except possibly in Northern Ontario.
 

blackrock13

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I guess they did not balance the tires even though I paid for a package that included change + balance + alignment. Maybe they thought balancing was not needed as winter tires were already on rims. It's a high end luxury car and I went to the dealership. It's surprising they'll screw up like that. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow.


If that's what they thought, then change garage, but if you didn't tell them to balance them they probably wouldn't. The longer you wait the harder the free service will be to get.
 
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