Wilfrid Laurier University full recording
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I remember taking a German culture course as part of my university breadth requirements. We covered some pretty dark stuff, and while most discussions involved outright condemnation, some of us delved into the reasons why the Nazis did what they did. It's important to have that discussion, because then you begin to understand that many of those Germans weren't evil people, but were simply corrupted by an ideology. It's far more effective for a person to understand for themselves how good people can go so wrong, because that's where the lesson is. That's how we avoid similar mistakes in the future. My point is, we were allowed to have those discussions right there in class, and no one was shouted down and accused of being a neo-Nazi or some such.
Fast forward ten years and it's transphobic and Nazi-like behaviour to even discuss the uses of pronouns? How far we've fallen in such a short time.
Fast forward ten years and it's transphobic and Nazi-like behaviour to even discuss the uses of pronouns? How far we've fallen in such a short time.
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I guess you're going to pick another alma mater for your vital post graduate research into the sinister Freemasons Conspiracy, CM?
books on conspiracies are available on Amazon read enroute to global occupation and similar books it is all documented facts
university enrollment is declining
https://bryanalexander.org/2017/05/24/higher-education-enrollment-declined-in-2017-again/
It is. But the same article you quote gives reasons for that having nothing to do with political correctness.
This and other statements made by WLU President MacLatchy as well as others regarding the providing of 'safe spaces' to engage in getting an education or any other endeavour for that matter is an effort to legislate or codify a Right to not be Offended. For many years during online discussions regarding free speech I have heard the phrase "you do not have a right to not be offended' whenever some poster screams that they are being abused by or are offended by someone's thoughts on a topic. The trans debate over pronouns is really bringing this to the fore. I am curious as to how damaged these people really are by the mere mention of free speech in the classrooms, how offended are they in reality. Is it impossible for them to get out of bed in the morning because they are so crippled by this. Do they need counselling for PTSD after going to class I wonder? I shudder to think how they can function at all. Personally I am offended by something going on somewhere on a daily basis and yet I still manage to get through my day without having a hystrionic breakdown. It is time to set those individuals straight that every emotion they experience is not necessarily valid nor the responsibility of someone else. They have made feeble somehow praiseworthy or something to be actively striven for...its pathetic.
In defence of Duncan and Trudeau, the issue is complicated and takes time to understand. You need a thorough background in academic politics to comprehend the issues and even then, you hit the reef of tenure, peer review and university self government and the inappropriateness of the federal government censuring or threatening to crack down on academics.
And as well, universities are a provincial responsibility under the Canadian Constitution. So Trudeau or any federal politician taking time delving into this shit and commenting is a waste of taxpayer's money. It's simply not his job.
Sheer is usually just trying to score easy points and his gig is painting Trudeau and the Libs as SJW, far left wankers. Sheer lies and misleads continually on these attacks.
So Sheer got pretty much what he deserved to get - a 60 second barrage of cliches and platitudes from Duncan. Sheer played a little game. The Libs played right back. Another 5 minutes of nonsense and crap in the House.
I spent the last hour reading about Peterson. I happen to know the guy in the video above (Oren Amitay) and respect him and he supports Peterson 100%. So I am on side as well.
OTOH, there are immense issues with governments intervening in academic self-government and peer review. There are reasons that governments do not fuck around with academic work. While doing so might be sympathetic in this case, you have only to think of how the Soviets and Nazis misused academia to understand why governments stay well away.
So if there are entrenched biases in some of the "softer" social sciences disciplines - i.e. psychology or women's studies - these are going to be almost impossible to eradicate.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-15.html
Pt. I, 2 (b)
This is what is at stake. Either Universities in this country are permitted to, nay promote and defend, adhere to this concept is which fundamental and is the foundation to the pursuit of knowledge and the development of our citizens and must not be sluffed aside or dodged merely as a matter for Provincial jurisdiction, or we are on the slow downward spiral into the repeating past errors of tyranny and totalitarianism.
The practise and exercise of 2(b) is the most important, borrowing from Angelou, or no other freedoms may be practised with any consistency.
The federal gov't, ie Trudeau or his minions should not have a problem in unequivocally stating that this is paramount. Without the double speak.
I don't care for the nonsense argument that it is very complex. It isn't that complex.
Pt. I, 2 (b)
This is what is at stake. Either Universities in this country are permitted to, nay promote and defend, adhere to this concept is which fundamental and is the foundation to the pursuit of knowledge and the development of our citizens and must not be sluffed aside or dodged merely as a matter for Provincial jurisdiction, or we are on the slow downward spiral into the repeating past errors of tyranny and totalitarianism.
The practise and exercise of 2(b) is the most important, borrowing from Angelou, or no other freedoms may be practised with any consistency.
The federal gov't, ie Trudeau or his minions should not have a problem in unequivocally stating that this is paramount. Without the double speak.
I don't care for the nonsense argument that it is very complex. It isn't that complex.
Damn! That's pretty on point, plus it flips the Nazi accusation back on to the accusers.
That is what is so laughable about the troika's kangaroo court.
None of them had the self awareness to comprehend that their behaviour was exactly what they were condemning Lindsay for.
It was also ridiculous to see that Rambukkana whose research is involved with digital social media etc made the centuries greatest Godwin. lmfao
You don't understand the way the Constitution works. It prevents the government from passing laws preventing free speech. It doesn't force the government to compel free speech everywhere in the country. If your boss says that you can't talk about Muslims at work, Trudeau doesn't sue your boss to make him allow you to talk about Muslims.
It's up to the provincial government to draft a set of free speech guidelines for universities and include it in their charters. The Feds can't do that. They have no jurisdiction over universities. Universities are constitutionally subordinate to the provinces. Not the feds.
Just like the provinces can't draft laws about international trade or about citizenship. Those are in the federal constitutional domain.
Even for the provinces to do that, it's kicking over an ant heap. The courts may say - like it or not - the government cannot regulate what professors teach and do in the lecture hall and they may use the Hitler analogy - no one wants a dictator to control the universities at some potential point in the future.
So... "it's complicated".
And another Laurier prof decides to pull his pants down in public.
https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/7962009-what-is-the-free-speech-debate-all-about-/
https://www.therecord.com/opinion-story/7962009-what-is-the-free-speech-debate-all-about-/
