Why do guys think that YMMV doesn't apply to them?

[radius]

I notice that on the forums, guys will often complain about not getting bbbj, or having to shower, or getting wiped by kleenex, having to use mouthwash, not getting DFK etc. and then go on to say that they are always clean, showered and polite as if that by itself should have been enough to turn on the girls so much that they would ignore their usual hygiene routine.

But just being presentable is really a bare minimum isn't it?

Personally, I've had some girls be really cold to me, and rush me out after mechanical service, and other girls who wanted bbfs and me to cum inside of them. I don't believe any of that had to do with the fact that I bathe regularly :biggrin1:

As another example, when I visit SPs, almost all of them are very attractive compared to women on the street, but even then some of the girls don't really do all that much for me and I end up having a lacklustre session. It's just a matter of having more personal chemistry with some people than others.

 

[MrJake]

and other girls who wanted bbfs and me to cum inside of them.

Let me get this straight, girls ASKED YOU for bbfs and to cum inside them? That's a new one.

 

[ultistar]

That's cuz YMMV doesn't apply to him

Let me get this straight, girls ASKED YOU for bbfs and to cum inside them? That's a new one.

 

[radius]

That's cuz YMMV doesn't apply to him

Haha... Just three times in my life as a hobbyist. It's not the way you guys might be imagining.

Something like:

[we are getting into it]

Her: Can you put it in now?

Me: Uh.... ok?

[fun ensues]

Me: I'm going to come!

Her: Don't stop!


Another time, a girl reached down and took the condom off in the middle things. I thought she was just adjusting things to be more comfortable and I was so into it, I didn't even realize the cover was off and was wondering why it felt so good. Scared the shit out of me afterwards when I found out.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

Let me get this straight, girls ASKED YOU for bbfs and to cum inside them? That's a new one.

Not really new, this has happened to me a few times as well. One well regarded SP a few years back (since retired) decided the condom was making it difficult for me and took it off and hopped on. Others would just assume the position after the bbbj and I'd have to ask for a condom. Not very common but I've had a couple SP say they get off with the feel of a guy cumming in them. I told them to lay down for more daty instead.

If you hobby long enough you run into all sort of things, you have to be strong to resist doing something stupid. The SP above removed the condom and I expected more bbbj and before I realized what was happening she hopped on and got my spunk, followed by many anxious test results which luckily turned up clean. With the thin condoms I prefer the feeling is not that dissimilar, and some are really good at applying the hat without it feeling like they did. That was many years ago and I have become more vigilant since. Doesn't mean I haven't had offers more recently, it still happens. Incredible to me that it does.

I've heard from others here who have had similar experiences. We don't need to get into another of those danger of bbfs threads, this isn't promoting it or trying to find it. Rather it's a warning to those who may not have experienced this kind of thing. Why any SP would want to do this is beyond me, I have some theories but no way to know for sure. And no SP who wants to keep working will admit to doing it or the reasons they do.

 

[wild4sex]

I had an SP offer me BBFS, I declined. Then I made sure to never see her again. My thinking is she must offer it to other clients, that's too much risk for me.

 

[mister_crufty]

Yikes! That would freak me out. In my case, I have a wife so it's not just me at risk. I can take whatever risks I want but that right stops when it affects others. My wife didn't consent to be exposed to that and in my opinion, putting her health at risk without her consent is practically rape. Obviously seeing providers is never 100% risk free but using precautions and regular checkups certainly minimize it.

Bringing it back on topic, my mileage usually seems to vary in a positive direction but I'm pretty obsessive about hygiene and grooming. I think some girls who insist on guys showering and are exceptionally meticulous are probably just following their regular policy rather than taking each client on his own merit. Nothing wrong with that and I certainly wouldn't get all butt-hurt about it. I know for a fact that every inch of me is clean enough to eat off of when I show up for an appointment but she doesn't know that does she?

 

[Eddie401]

Let me get this straight, girls ASKED YOU for bbfs and to cum inside them? That's a new one.

Really? Happened to me once in 1992. Never before and never since.

 

[yak2432]

I once had an MA who really wanted FS but had no condoms. For me, no glove, no love. I must've hit her horny button because she really wanted it. Not quite the highest mileage but close. Treat them well and the rewards come IMHO.

 

[igotaboner]

WRT YMMV I must agree that it really is a chemistry thing. There are ladies that we just clicked and the sex was amazing. Then I recoed them to a friend who came away saying "ho hum"...or "well it was ok but not great." It really is an individual thing. A few years ago there was a lady, who has since retired, and it seemed like our parts just fit perfectly and we anticipated each others moves. I think the other thing with that lady was that we enjoyed the same kind of books and traded books with each other and chatted about them. The sex was amazing but there was also an appreciation of each other's minds. Although the sex was good the first time,it got better and better as we learned to know each other in a more complete sense than just a casual shagging. It's one of the reasons I'm a repeater and not always looking for the latest hottie.

 

[radius]

I regret using that example since it seems to have been too distracting... My point was that being clean and polite feels like the minimum you should do so I'm puzzled by the guys who think that is enough.

 

[BootyLoving]

Steve Balmer impersonation ...
"Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
breath ....
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!
Chemistry chemistry chemistry!"

Ok, that's enough. Hopefully the message has been set.
Once I broke a condom while really into it.
She was and is a very safety conscious individual, no bb anything offered, very sensible and mature individual.
We didn't know it happen, but it was starting to feel really good. Ok, it was always really good, but somehow gotten better. So I looked down, and uh oh! I advised her of the predickament.
She looked down to assess, and looked at me ... Told me "I'm clean. Are you?"
Wow, what a relief! Hot retested, a-oh-k!

YMMV is all about trust, comfort level ... And of course hygiene helps. Just because you can afford it, Ferrari will decided if you are worthy of buying a brand new Enzo.

The ladies still have freedom of choice, and if certain services really peak your interest and is a must, specify it in advance.
My current only requirement is that the vagina is authentic. *cough*cough*

 

[mister_crufty]

My current only requirement is that the vagina is authentic. *cough*cough*

Hahaha...I think you should keep working this one. See if you can make it into a terb meme. ;-)

BootyLoving: (v) Accidentally sleeping with a TG and finding out about it several days later.
e.g. "Dude, check out that chicks adam's apple. Don't want to be bootyloving by accident."

 

[BootyLoving]

Roflmao