Why build a tunnel to the Island Airport?

[fmahovalich]

How stupid!! Would be ultra expensive.

For petes sakes..why not build a tower on each side with elevator.....or escalators up.

Then a glassed walkway over the water and ....down the other side on elevator. SO MUCH CHEAPER!

You gotta get high enough to allow access to all the sail boats and other boats that use the west channel. So much much easier to build the walkway!

 

[doggee_01]

How stupid!! Would be ultra expensive.

For petes sakes..why not build a tower on each side with elevator.....or escalators up.

Then a glassed walkway over the water and ....down the other side on elevator. SO MUCH CHEAPER!

You gotta get high enough to allow access to all the sail boats and other boats that use the west channel. So much much easier to build the walkway!

i think that would be called a bridge........i think some XXXXXXX got himself elected by saying NO BRIDGE 10,000 times

 

[WoodPeckr]

fmahovalich welcome to the land of TERB

There is a whole thread devoted to this in the Political Forum when it has been beaten to death....

 

[GDLLover]

Unfortunately the elevator idea wouldn't work because they couldn't get cars or emergency vehicles over there.

The tunnel is going to be necessary now because Buttonville is going to shut down in the next 6 years. Just what we all need, another Smart Center. For reference Buttonville was to busiest non-international airport in Canada. Thanks to all those politicians that didn't want to help them to keep it alive.

GDL

 

[CapitalGuy]

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[masterchief]

The tunnel is going to be necessary now because Buttonville is going to shut down in the next 6 years. Just what we all need, another Smart Center. For reference Buttonville was to busiest non-international airport in Canada. Thanks to all those politicians that didn't want to help them to keep it alive.
GDL

Buttonville's been beating the drums of going under every time they stop getting their financial hand out from the government through the GTAA. For years, due to too much volume at Pearson to handle small flights, Buttonville was given huge payments for small private flights that were diverted to its airfield. Nowadays with fewer flights clogging YYZ, there's no need to send anything to Buttonville.....and no more big fat taxpayers cheques from the GTAA.

Buttonville for all its claims as being the busiest non-international airport in Canada (btw..it actually is an international entry port....and it’s10th on the list of number of total flights (due to several flight schools being there)), has been run into the ground by bad management of the family that owns the airport; who've always wanted to make a larger profit by redeveloping the land anyways.

 

[oldjones]

Unfortunately the elevator idea wouldn't work because they couldn't get cars or emergency vehicles over there.

The tunnel is going to be necessary now because Buttonville is going to shut down in the next 6 years. Just what we all need, another Smart Center. For reference Buttonville was to busiest non-international airport in Canada. Thanks to all those politicians that didn't want to help them to keep it alive.

GDL

You haven't been keeping up: The proposed tunnel is pedestrians only, elevators each end accessing a moving sidewalk. Exactly the OP's bridge but underground.

People keep bringing up the emergency vehicles thing, but the authorities—including the one proposing the tunnel—all say the existing situation's safe enough to operate an airport.

 

[fmahovalich]

That was my point

IT IS FOR PEDESTRIANS ONLY.

WOULD BE A FRACTION OF THE PRICE TO GO UP A COUPLE ESCALATORS (like in vegas) Walk across - not even a moving sidewalk...ITS SO SHORT....

Then escalators down.


WAY WAY cheaper than that tunnel crap!!!

Just go high enough to let the sailboats under....and Bobs your Uncle!!

 

[masterchief]

WAY WAY cheaper than that tunnel crap!!!

But then that would a bridge....and then the whole things starts all over again.

 

[blopar]

But then that would a bridge....and then the whole things starts all over again.[/QUOTE

Just call it an "overpass" or an "elevated walkway" or an "open air tunnel", and Miller won't notice---based upon his track record, there is a lot that he doesn't notice.

 

[Mencken]

A tunnel might be the cheapest option actually. Can basically be dredged into the bottom, and doesn't have to be very deep to maintain the current channel depth. Really just a waterproof underpass.

Hire me to do it...I could do it a lot cheaper than all those engineers. And a sump pump could take care of the small leaks.

 

[Yoga Face]

Why build a tunnel?

Lay a glass tube on the bottom

That way we can see all the fishes, dead bodies and sewage goo as we walk to the Island

Another tourist attraction

 

[Mia.Colpa]

This debate will go out the window when Miller gets beat next year. The new mayor will build a bridge, Smitherman of Tory.

 

[oldjones]

Three floors up and down in a crowded box w/ video ads, then a hundred yards of moving sidewalk w/ more? I'd rather have a boat ride, thanks.

 

[james t kirk]

It seems to work pretty good the way it is right now.

Toronto has many more things to spend its infrastructure money on right now than a tunnel to the islan.

How bout replacing the bridges along the Gardiner that are ready to collapse for one?

 

[i am one]

Someone remind me why the bridge was a bad idea? Yea, so Miller is against it, whatever. Rationally and logically, what's the reason(s) for not building it?

 

[Cassini]

If you have a bridge, you have easier access to the island airport. Miller wanted the airport closed.

 

[oldjones]

Someone remind me why the bridge was a bad idea? Yea, so Miller is against it, whatever. Rationally and logically, what's the reason(s) for not building it?

See the post above yours from Capt. Kirk. Replace 'tunnel' w/ 'bridge'.

Perhaps the proposal would be more persuasive if it was a toll bridge—paid for by the users—not a tax-paid bridge paid for by people who not only won't use it but earnestly believe the airport should revert to parkland [See many posts re: Island squatters]

A pedestrian bridge is no real problem, and it could even be a sightseeing vantage point, three strories up, but no one is proposing that. By bridge they mean vehicular bridge, and that means long approach ramps on the island and cityside, messing up the landscape [See many arguments about 'ugly' Gardiner blocking waterfronts etc.] screwing up traffic patterns and slicing up the neighbourhood.

Let's frame the discussion this way: Why would a bridge a good idea?

 

[masterchief]

Toronto has many more things to spend its infrastructure money on right now than a tunnel to the islan.

How bout replacing the bridges along the Gardiner that are ready to collapse for one?

Sure, but the money for this wouldn't be coming out of Toronto's coffers at alll, it never way since iit would be the Port Authority who'd be footing the bill.

 

[masterchief]

By bridge they mean vehicular bridge, and that means long approach ramps on the island and cityside, messing up the landscape [See many arguments about 'ugly' Gardiner blocking waterfronts etc.] screwing up traffic patterns and slicing up the neighbourhood.

Let's frame the discussion this way: Why would a bridge a good idea?

Well first off it would the same amount of vehicle traffic as there is now, actually it would alleviate the traffic line ups for the ferry that exist right now.

Secondly, the ferry is the largest waste of time, its a useless boat ride. Plus a bridge would eliminate the cost of having a paid employee run a ferry that goes back an forth the length of a high school football field.