When will it end?

anyone else craving Caribian food now?

on the bottom of the page, Albert Wiggan is the chef who owns "Alberts" at Vaughn Road and St. Clair isn't it? Maybe I can go in and lodge a complaint that his curry chicken dinner is overpriced? Seems to have at least as much merit as the turban instead of a helmet arguement IMHO.
 
No comments on the medical marijuana smoking fellow??
 
slowandeasy said:
No comments on the medical marijuana smoking fellow??
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He needs a tuning-up as well.

Not as bad as the guy with the depends but he still needs one.

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I didn't read all 5 pages so I don't know if someone posted this or not but this is similar to the guy who was charged, and thrown off a construction site for not wearing a hard hat (which is the law while on a construction site).

The reason he can't wear a helmet period is because (I may be a little off on this but ...) according to his religion, he cannot wear any headwear or article over his turban because it is a barrier between his head and his god. Or something to that effect.

As for people still being injured while wearing a helmet, that is true, but many more are saved because they are wearing a helmet. Same as seatbelts, it's the law you have to wear them but that doesn't mean you are 100% safe, just safer.....

I am all for religious freedoms but not when they conflict with the common law. For eg: I also don't believe one can be legally married to more than one woman (the greedy bastards lol) so they shouldn't be allowed to here. If anyone doesn't like the laws of this country, then petition to change it, or don't live here...EOS.
 
Might I suggest that the Terb members who are biz oriented get together and manufacture a motorcycle helmet specifically for the Sikh community? We could call it the Conehead! Our motto would be "You look really good and still get to go to heaven".
 
great bear said:
Might I suggest that the Terb members who are biz oriented get together and manufacture a motorcycle helmet specifically for the Sikh community? We could call it the Conehead! Our motto would be "You look really good and still get to go to heaven".
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I've already suggested they use Depends.


The slogan could be " Hey sh*thead, try these, they're really soft and absorbent"

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This not a religious issue, it's a legal one. The law says you have to wear a helmet if you ride a motorcycle in Ontario. If you don't want to or can't for whatever reason, take another form of transportation, public or private. Simple. If that is not acceptable to you, try to get the law changed, but until such time as it is changed, you have to wear a helmet...simple.

The law applies to everyone. In this case, the law is for safety reasons...sure people die in motorcycle accidents - and yes, when wearing helmets. How the hell did this clown manage to quote a figure including people that wear helmets when everyone riding a motorcycle has to wear a helmet? There is no stat on people not wearing helmets dieing in accidents because there isn't anyone not wearing a helmet...moron.

I swear sometimes the Ontario tree hugging Human Rights Commission gets involved in cases with no merit that make me nuts - this is one of those cases. This has nothing to do with human rights - I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for some dude and a shovel to clean up this assholes grease spot after his accident without the helmet...then again, if he goes away, maybe the issue will as well? Nah...too simple...

The proponents of cases like this need to realize that when they come to our country, they need to fit into our laws, not the other way around...and don't even get me started on the RCMP and the exception they made...
 
great bear said:
Might I suggest that the Terb members who are biz oriented get together and manufacture a motorcycle helmet specifically for the Sikh community? We could call it the Conehead! Our motto would be "You look really good and still get to go to heaven".
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GB: as much as I understand the jesting behind your post, they can't wear anything over their turban so any type of helmet is out of the question (to the sikhs anyways).....
 
tboy said:
GB: as much as I understand the jesting behind your post, they can't wear anything over their turban so any type of helmet is out of the question (to the sikhs anyways).....
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Well there goes that idea to make money.
 
great bear said:
Well there goes that idea to make money.
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make hemits that fit under them.
 
As for the pot smoker....

Did you catch the crazy bitch they interviewed on CHCH. She was wacked out of her mind spewing how that was discrimination and they didn't have to put up with that.

Hey they only asked you to move away from the door.

We live in a country with a bunch of gutless politicians who don't want to offend anyone. The laws the law. If you don't like it leave.
 
elmo said:
This not a religious issue, it's a legal one. The law says you have to wear a helmet if you ride a motorcycle in Ontario. If you don't want to or can't for whatever reason, take another form of transportation, public or private. Simple. If that is not acceptable to you, try to get the law changed, but until such time as it is changed, you have to wear a helmet...simple.
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No it is not that simple. Sure there is a helmet law, but there is also a law called the Ontario Human Rights Code. Sometimes those two laws come into conflict, yet they are both the law. Section 47(2) of the Ontario Human Rights Code explicitly states that the Human Rights Code takes precedence over any other Act or Regulation unless it is expressly stated that a particular Act or Regulation shall operate notwithstanding the Human Rights Code.

The Human Rights Commission is simply applying the law, they are not inventing it. If you don't like the law, take your own advice and petition your MPP to repeal or amend the Human Rights Code. If the Human Rights Code is not acceptable to you, try to get the law changed, but until such time as it is changed, you have to live with the Human Rights Code and the Human Rights Commission ... simple.
 
tboy said:
If anyone doesn't like the laws of this country, then petition to change it, or don't live here...EOS.
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So are you going to petition your MPP to change the Human Rights Code? You don't seem to like the law of the land either.

There is one more alternative for those who don't like the current law of the land.

Petition your MPP to change the helmet law so that it operates notwithstanding the Human Rights Code. That will cut off claim and the Commission's involvement at the knees.
 
a 1 player said:
The problem with laws is that most of them are badly written and difficult to enforce.

Frank Zappa
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The problem with laws like the Human Rights Code as well as our constitutional Charter of Rights and Freedoms is that these documents set out lofty principles in vague language and these charters are stated to take precedence over all other laws.

So it is left to the courts and the Human Rights Commission to take these general lofty principles and apply them to real life specific issues such as the helmet case at hand.

Our judges tend to be well-respected learned men and women, but they are not infallible and in their metaphorical ivory tower they are sometimes disconnected from reality.

The alternative is to remove these powers from the courts by repealing or restricting the Human Rights Code and the Charter, leaving it up to Parliament and the Legislatures to make whatever laws they wish without regard to unforseen discriminatory effects.

Some trust politicians more than judges, some trust the judges more. Some like me trust neither but recognize that ultimately someone must be empowered to make a decision.

To paraphrase Churchill, it's a terrible system, except for all the other systems.
 
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