What makes a guy say?

Ladyraven

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I have never seen you . i have spoken to you once. what makes one say to a girl
You know there are hundreds of escorts out there . i contacted you because you intrigue me. give me a good price and you will get all my buisness...

I say this
my rates are firm.. i am not naive . i know there are all kinds of escorts .. I am not going to lower my self or my standards just to get buisness.. that is not who I am.. you get what you pay for hun
. does it sound rude?
 

Brill

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This is the worst way to get good service and he'd be laughed at for pretending he'll give you all his future business. She knows it's a false flattery.
Stay firm with the cheapskates, don't acknowledge or respond to them and don't let them ruin your day.
Your prices aren't too high.
 

pokerdude

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I've never negotiated a rate before with anybody. Did have an Indy that I liked offer me a discount. That was nice.

Raven, how often do you get asked to "knock off a few bucks"
 

krnguy

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I have never seen you . i have spoken to you once. what makes one say to a girl
You know there are hundreds of escorts out there . i contacted you because you intrigue me. give me a good price and you will get all my buisness...

I say this
my rates are firm.. i am not naive . i know there are all kinds of escorts .. I am not going to lower my self or my standards just to get buisness.. that is not who I am.. you get what you pay for hun
. does it sound rude?
I'm sure there are other ways of looking at it, but off the top of my head...

Perspective #1:
The fact that he's not willing to pay your rates shows the type of person he is. Therefore he may be a less than desirable client so don't waste your time.

Perspective #2:
This is a business transaction, specifically, for a service. Normally in the course of business, if someone were to purchase in quantity from a supplier, they would get a discount.

Personally I'm leaning towards #1. But if you're willing to, why not offer him a discount if he pays for say... 10 hours up front or something? Guaranteed money, plus it shows he trusts you.
 
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Brill

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I figure if I bargain down the price even ten dollars she'll pare down her menu to less than basic and cut the time in half.
And she'd have every right to do so.

Giving him a break won't reflect in more business from him in the future and she knows it.
 
lol to much . and my rates are fair..
I know that saying this is like committing a mortal sin, but why is it that escorts always feel so insulted by this? In my business, we routinely quote on business and on occasion, prospective clients will come back to us and say that they got some prices from other good suppliers, and we were high. I have the choice of declining to reduce my price and not getting the business, or dropping the price a bit and getting the business, or trying to convince the client that we really are worth the difference (which rarely works in this economy.) Either way, I don't get all indignant about it....

I appreciate that my business is less "personal" but we also have significant costs which need to be covered, unlike an escort. (Except in the case of incalls) Isn't it better to get $225 instead of "not" getting $250? Many guys are hurting these days, and perhaps escorts should consider this.

Incidentally, if we do drop our price a little, we don't drop the "standard" of our work. Same job, less money.

I should add that I have NEVER asked a lady for a discount, and generally, I think I am a generous tipper when the experience warrants it. I am fortunate that a few bucks one way or the other isn't a huge deal. Having said that, the ladies in KW and Niagara that charge $160 or $180 are every bit the great time that the $250 ladies are...
 

blackrock13

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I have never seen you . i have spoken to you once. what makes one say to a girl
You know there are hundreds of escorts out there . i contacted you because you intrigue me. give me a good price and you will get all my buisness...

I say this
my rates are firm.. i am not naive . i know there are all kinds of escorts .. I am not going to lower my self or my standards just to get buisness.. that is not who I am.. you get what you pay for hun
. does it sound rude?
What does? Stupid does.
 

afterhours

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I know that saying this is like committing a mortal sin, but why is it that escorts always feel so insulted by this? In my business, we routinely quote on business and on occasion, prospective clients will come back to us and say that they got some prices from other good suppliers, and we were high. I have the choice of declining to reduce my price and not getting the business, or dropping the price a bit and getting the business, or trying to convince the client that we really are worth the difference (which rarely works in this economy.) Either way, I don't get all indignant about it....

I appreciate that my business is less "personal" but we also have significant costs which need to be covered, unlike an escort. (Except in the case of incalls) Isn't it better to get $225 instead of "not" getting $250? Many guys are hurting these days, and perhaps escorts should consider this.

Incidentally, if we do drop our price a little, we don't drop the "standard" of our work. Same job, less money.
escorts may have significant advertising expenses

and also, in any industry I would expect worse service if you bargain
of course, if you are buying big screen TV, you'll get the same TV
but if you bargain with an SP or a masseuse or a real estate agent or a lawyer, you will get less service and provider will secretly despise and/or hate you
 

Brill

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I agree that it's better for a woman to get the sure $160 instead of the advertised $200 if business is slow.
At the same time haggling for intimate services is taken personally and it's just not done.
Do these opposing statements jive?
No, but that's the way it is - not always rational but the way it is. Perhaps it's a point of pride more than anything else.

If a woman slashes her rates on her own or holds a special she'll see a bump in business but she wants it to be her idea.
 

faveone

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I have never seen you . i have spoken to you once. what makes one say to a girl
You know there are hundreds of escorts out there . i contacted you because you intrigue me. give me a good price and you will get all my buisness...

I say this
my rates are firm.. i am not naive . i know there are all kinds of escorts .. I am not going to lower my self or my standards just to get buisness.. that is not who I am.. you get what you pay for hun
. does it sound rude?
Stupid is as stupid does !
 

WhaWhaWha

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Does psychology work?

Ladyraven, I dare you to lower your rates. What's the matter? Are you Chicken?

(that oughta do it...) :rolleyes:
 

genintoronto

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I know that saying this is like committing a mortal sin, but why is it that escorts always feel so insulted by this? In my business, we routinely quote on business and on occasion, prospective clients will come back to us and say that they got some prices from other good suppliers, and we were high. I have the choice of declining to reduce my price and not getting the business, or dropping the price a bit and getting the business, or trying to convince the client that we really are worth the difference (which rarely works in this economy.) Either way, I don't get all indignant about it....
I haven't got asked for discount very often, but the few times I did, I wasn't so much insulted as not interested. The kink of prospective clients who tend to ask for discount (usually to a woman they have never met before and for a one hour appointment only) are not the kind of clients I want to spend time with.

Which is not to say that I do not quote based on the client or circumstances (such as multihours date, dinner or SC date, couple date, etc.). But when I do, it usually comes from me, or it is usually asked in a different, less arrogant way. For instance, rather than John assuming that I'm dying for the privilege of spending an hour with him at a discounted rate, Bob will suggest a fun outing or special date, and ask me what the compensation for such a date would be.
 

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The correct answer to this guy is to point out that there are also hundreds of customers, you don't need his business that badly.

Obviously another "correct" answer is to ignore him :)

It's a competitive market, monopolistic competition really. The market rate is almost certainly fair, given that there are so many customers, and so many providers. It's stupid to argue about price under these situations--if you think someone's price is unfair, do business with someone else who you think has a better price.
 

fuji

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I know that saying this is like committing a mortal sin, but why is it that escorts always feel so insulted by this? In my business, we routinely quote on business and on occasion, prospective clients will come back to us and say that they got some prices from other good suppliers, and we were high.
I'm guessing your business is less competitive than the escort market. Are there literally thousands of customers and thousands of suppliers all buying and selling an essentially similar product in your market? I bet not. When a market becomes as competitive as the escort market is prices tend to be non-negotiable.

Try going into a convenience store and arguing with the clerk over the price of a can of soda. The price is 100x to 200x lower than an escort but the level of competition is similar: The store doesn't need your business badly enough to change the price; and if you think they charge too much it's pretty easy for you to walk to the next store over.

Same here. If you think an escort charges too much it's pretty easy for you to call the next number on your list, nor does she need your business so badly that she's willing to negotiate with you. If her price is unfair she'll notice the lack of business and correct it on her own, same way the convenience store owner will set the price for his soda based on what his neighbours charge.
 

Ladyraven

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I know that saying this is like committing a mortal sin, but why is it that escorts always feel so insulted by this? In my business, we routinely quote on business and on occasion, prospective clients will come back to us and say that they got some prices from other good suppliers, and we were high. I have the choice of declining to reduce my price and not getting the business, or dropping the price a bit and getting the business, or trying to convince the client that we really are worth the difference (which rarely works in this economy.) Either way, I don't get all indignant about it....

I appreciate that my business is less "personal" but we also have significant costs which need to be covered, unlike an escort. (Except in the case of incalls) Isn't it better to get $225 instead of "not" getting $250? Many guys are hurting these days, and perhaps escorts should consider this.

Incidentally, if we do drop our price a little, we don't drop the "standard" of our work. Same job, less money.

I should add that I have NEVER asked a lady for a discount, and generally, I think I am a generous tipper when the experience warrants it. I am fortunate that a few bucks one way or the other isn't a huge deal. Having said that, the ladies in KW and Niagara that charge $160 or $180 are every bit the great time that the $250 ladies are...
my rates are 100 for the hh and 180 for the h.. more than fair and that is why i will not drop them.
 

tboy

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In this economy you really can't jump too hard on someone for trying to get a better deal, but really, if you dont' want to pay those rates, don't book her. Could be a newb too.

There are some agencies and indies who offer a multi booking discount where if you book x hours number 5 is free. It effectively works out to be a 20% discount per hour but you have to actually pay for all the hours before you get the discount.

Last summer I had a pair of wealthy clients who I said "I'll do all this for free, if you pay me to do this". After they had me do the free stuff and cancelled the stuff they were to pay for they argued that they didn't have to pay me because I said I'd do it for free. They ignored the key factor that they had to pay for x services to get y services.

When I sued them during the settlement meeting I said to them: When you see a shoe store offerring a buy one get one free sale do you walk in and ask for the free pair? NO. You buy the first pair and THEN (and only then) do you get the other pair free......

But there's idiots like this in every business. I'd say ignore them and move on........
 
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