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What is with this rap shit?

4leafclover

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Watched the grammys the other night. Show lasted 3.5 hrs. Would have been 2 hrs. if these rap assholes worked longer in their day jobs, installing mufflers.
What is with this shit? Someone puts a hanky full of buggers on their head, dresses in oversized, stypid looking clothes from the salvation army, talks fast, not sing, while holding their balls. Sells shit loads of cd's to their buddys in other muffler shops. Earn grammys for this shit. Expose the rest of us to this shit, while fucking up a good entertainer, Sting. I wonder what he really thought.
Got to go now, have to get my muffler changed!
 

zydeco

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Definitely - "Tool of the Day". (Hopefully Derringer won't mind us borrowing this phrase)
 

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DenWa

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Everybody has their own tastes. I definitely like rock better than rap. But, tastes are one thing. Not liking a type of music is a matter of opinion. It's a whole other thing to start saying a certain type of music lacks validity just because you happen to not like it is ignorant and wrong.
 

The Shake

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hdog said:
Bopping "down" is right. I'll never forget the talk before Elton John performed with Eminem (sounds like the candy but spelled differently, get it) at the Grammies or wherever. The Eman said he respects Elton John as an artist. Wow that means a lot. Elton John knew more about music at 5 than this twerp will ever know in his lifetime, which if he's a true rapper should end soon.
Oh, Lord, I can't believe I'm being put in the postion to defend Eminem, but....

Elton John is hardly a poster boy for music knowledge (or talent). He is an excellent showman (if you like that sort of thing), a good singer, and a decent piano player. Almost all of his succesful songs, however, were written by others or co-authored with Bernie Taupin. He has contributed nothing of note in almost 20 years (re-writing an old hit as a maudlin tribute to a dead princess does NOT count) and would do everyone a favour by just going away. Sadly, he won't.

As for Eminem, I don't care for rap music. I don't own any Eminem CD's (or have even downloaded any of his songs) because its just not my sort of stuff. That said, I've heard many of his songs, and they are typically funny, intelligent, and well constructed. The kid has an unreal amount of talent and deserved the accolades that he's received.

There are hundreds of useless rappers, rockers, and popstars. In any form of music, however, there are legitimate talents - Eminem happens to be one.
 

Kev

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I like rap, rock, blues, just about all types of music. Like any genre in music there is good and bad. True music artists write what they are feeling. Some of those artist grew up in tough times and its interesting to here what they have to say. I'm thinking of Tupac, Notorious BIG, Eminem, and others. Unfortunately what you here on the radio is the watered down pop version of rap like Nelly (its to hot in herre) What i pile of crap.

80% of the rap CDs sold in America are bought by non African Americans. So to blame African Americans for the success of rap is retarded. --- Kev
 

Rivera

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I think you need only look back to the reaction of the establishment to rock 'n' roll in the 50's and to the protest music of the 60s to see a mirror of how many react to rap and hip hop music. Performers of the day flew in the face of authority and presented themselves and their music in such a way that contravened everything decent according to older generations. You may not like how they are saying it and how they look, but you should listen to what they are saying. Of course, not all rap and hip hop performers are substantive, as with early rock 'n' rollers. There are a select few that carry an important message that many don't want to hear because it forces us to take an honest look at our flawed society. It is not something that we wish to own up to, that our lovely democracy is riddled with systemic racism. The fact that, even jokingly, a person can make the comments that started this thread, is a statement that bears scrutiny and honest reflection.
 

TravellingGuy

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Kev: Well said. I can see your point about some of the pop/radio hip-hop, myself I've uncovered some great artists that unless you enjoy hip-hop you probably haven't heard.

Not all rap and hip-hop is about violence or full of nonsense. The latest Black Eyed Peas CD is terrific, and I don't think there's a swear word on it, some of the songs have real messages to them.
 

Von Wigglestaff

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Tool...does someone have something against this awesome band?

Never lump hip-hop with new country, the former can infuriate but the later gives you diabetes.

Can anyone name a greater phenominal talent than Lauryn Hill? I attended her acoustic Massey Hall show and have been waiting impatiently for her to release those song on a CD. When she finally gets around to orchestrating those songs, it's going to be a MONSTER. She's a frustrating artist, I fear she may become a female Axel Rose.

Kathleen, you sleep to classical music...obviously you're not listening to Wagner.
 

Uzo

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When I was with Sony, I met TONNES of artists and can say that a FEW should be doing something else, but lots of there are very good business people...dont let the baggy clothes fool you...they know how to market and capitalize.
 
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