What charges would this bring?

[poopypants]

The guy was there as a pre arranged meeting to pick up his son so can't say he was tresspassing, nor was the guy who was shot a real threat? He did grab the gun though.

Just read up on castle doctrine, interesting....https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/castle-doctrine-states

Man Tries To Pick Up His Son From His Exes House And Gets Shot Twice By His Sons Stepfather!

“The children are aware that Kyle Carruth shot and killed their father in front of their mother, step-brother, and myself. Christina’s decision to allow either of these children to be in Kyle Carruth’s presence has caused, and continues to cause, significant impairment of their emotional...

worldstarhiphop.com

 

[Robert Mugabe]

The guy was there as a pre arranged meeting to pick up his son so can't say he was tresspassing, nor was the guy who was shot a real threat?

Man Tries To Pick Up His Son From His Exes House And Gets Shot Twice By His Sons Stepfather!

“The children are aware that Kyle Carruth shot and killed their father in front of their mother, step-brother, and myself. Christina’s decision to allow either of these children to be in Kyle Carruth’s presence has caused, and continues to cause, significant impairment of their emotional...

worldstarhiphop.com

Nuther day in Murica

 

[Jenesis]

Based solely on the video - As soon as he was told to leave the property, it becomes trespassing and depending on where this is, it would be considered justified.

 

[onomatopoeia]

Voluntary Manslaughter, 6-12 year sentence for guilty plea, depending on the Judge and priors. The two videos and the fact that the shooter moved away from the victim before firing negate any chance for a self defense plea. It sounds like the victim spat on the shooter just before the shooting; that isn't reasonable grounds to kill someone. If the shooter was not the property owner, he doesn't have a legal right to order someone to leave the premises where he is only a tenant. It's unclear if the victim had a legal right to be on the property at 3:15, or whether this was an informal agreement.

Added: The incident took place in Lubbock, Texas on November 5. The divorce between the child's parents was not yet finalized. The shooting victim was the property owner, but not a tenant. The shooter is the ex-husband of a Judge, (the "Ann Marie" mentioned in the audio).

 

[rhuarc29]

Voluntary Manslaughter, 6-12 year sentence for guilty plea, depending on the Judge and priors. The two videos and the fact that the shooter moved away from the victim before firing negate any chance for a self defense plea. It sounds like the victim spat on the shooter just before the shooting; that isn't reasonable grounds to kill someone. If the shooter was not the property owner, he doesn't have a legal right to order someone to leave the premises where he is only a tenant. It's unclear if the victim had a legal right to be on the property at 3:15, or whether this was an informal agreement.

Added: The incident took place in Lubbock, Texas on November 5. The divorce between the child's parents was not yet finalized. The shooting victim was the property owner, but not a tenant. The shooter is the ex-husband of a Judge, (the "Ann Marie" mentioned in the audio).

Wow, what a cluster. Shooting victim is the property owner, you say? Pretty sure the shooter is going to jail for this. Who brings a fucking gun to a verbal argument? Anyone who can't keep their head, doesn't deserve to own a gun that can take a life.
I mean, how many lives did this just ruin?

 

[Jenesis]

Wow, what a cluster. Shooting victim is the property owner, you say? Pretty sure the shooter is going to jail for this. Who brings a fucking gun to a verbal argument? Anyone who can't keep their head, doesn't deserve to own a gun that can take a life.
I mean, how many lives did this just ruin?

If the victim is still the owner, that makes a huge difference I think. Regarding trespassing.

But it depends. I know a guy who was still paying on his house but not allowed to be there as per a court order. Maybe this is the same?????

 

[rhuarc29]

If the victim is still the owner, that makes a huge difference I think. Regarding trespassing.

But it depends. I know a guy who was still paying on his house but not allowed to be there as per a court order. Maybe this is the same?????

Yeah could be. But you'd think if he was court ordered not to be there, the two parties wouldn't have organized a pick-up on that property.

 

[onomatopoeia]

... Shooting victim is the property owner, you say? ...

Details are sketchy, but from several links the shooting victim and the child's mother filed for divorce in September, and the divorce was not yet final. Court records of the divorce proceedings are sealed. Very likely the shooting victim and the child's mother cohabited in the home where the shooting took place prior to September, and she was given residence at the matrimonial home. The shooter is her boyfriend.

 

[Valcazar]

Based solely on the video - As soon as he was told to leave the property, it becomes trespassing and depending on where this is, it would be considered justified.

Seems to be Texas, which makes me think that the shooter is in the right according to the law there.
There might be other issues involved, but like you said - he was told to leave and then didn't. Pretty sure in Texas after the victime refused and went for the gun the shooter had the right to shoot him.

 

[Valcazar]

OK, looks like who was on whose property is way the fuck more complicated.

Still.
It's Texas.

Gotta assume the shooter will be found to be blameless.