Well, things could possibly get worse...
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The job of military planners is to prepare for any situation. I am sure that the US, Russia, and even China have plans written to nuke Iran. Hell, the book I'm reading right now is fiction based on Imperial era Germany's plans to invade the US.
Iran War plans moving along
Just a little behind schedule though.
All that is left is waiting for that 'Gulf of Tonkin' type 'incident' to occur.
Charley Reese brings us up to speed here.
No doubt Charley Reese must just be another 'textbook Jew-Hater' and be dismissed as such by the apologists of the War Party, both in the US & Israel, for daring to out these war mongers.....
Israel's Bad Influence
by Charley Reese - January 6, 2007
Scott Ritter, a former U.N. arms inspector in Iraq, has written a book, Target Iran, in which he accuses the Israeli government and its American lobby of pushing the U.S. into attacking Iran.
Ritter writes, "Let there be no doubt: If there is an American war with Iran, it is a war that was made in Israel." He accuses some members of the lobby of dual loyalty and urges that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee be required to register as a foreign agent.
He also blasts the Israeli lobby for its use of the Holocaust and for crying anti-Semite every time Israel is criticized. "This is a sickening trend that must be ended," he writes.
By coincidence, an Israeli general has verified everything Ritter says. According to an article published in Today.az on Jan. 2, Israeli Brig. Gen. Oded Tira published a statement urging an all-out effort by Israel and its lobby to push a U.S. attack on Iran.
"President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran," the general is quoted as saying. "As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and U.S. newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iran issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure."
The general urges the Israeli lobby to turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they support immediate action by Bush against Iran. The lobby must also approach the Europeans, he adds, so Bush won't find himself isolated, and he calls for Israel to "clandestinely cooperate with Saudi Arabia so that it also persuades the U.S. to strike Iran."
As Ritter says, a U.S. war in Iran will be a war made in Israel.
Of course, Israel's American supporters, most of whom are ignorant of nuclear energy, ignorant of the history of Israel and ignorant of the people in the Middle East, will trot out their usual specious arguments.
But let's lay out the undeniable facts. Israel considers Iran its main threat. Israel wants a U.S. attack against Iran. The Israeli lobby does what the Israeli government tells it to do. Anybody who claims the Israeli lobby is just another lobby is either ignorant or lying. The Israeli lobby is the second most, if not the most, powerful lobby in America.
So, sit back and watch the Israeli amen corner start the propaganda to push America to war with Iran just as it did in the case of Iraq. It will try to have you believe that Iran can make nuclear weapons as easily as baking cakes. The truth is that even if Iran decided to seek nuclear weapons, the Iranians are a good 10 years away from having any. The truth is that Iran, even if it had nuclear weapons, is no threat to the U.S.
All of which reminds me of my favorite undiplomatic comment by a diplomat. Some time ago at a private party in London, the French ambassador said of Israel, "Why does the world put up with such a sh*tty little country causing so much trouble?" Outraged British Zionists demanded his recall, but the French government ignored them.
Sooner or later, Americans are going to wake up to the fact that Israel's influence on the American government is detrimental. If Israel wants a war with Iran, let the Israelis fight it. Of course, seeing how poorly they did against Hezbollah, I suspect that the Israelis, despite their public threats, would not choose to fight the Iranians.
In my opinion, Americans who want American youth to die and bleed for the benefit of a foreign country are guilty of more than dual loyalty.
Just a little behind schedule though.
All that is left is waiting for that 'Gulf of Tonkin' type 'incident' to occur.
Charley Reese brings us up to speed here.
No doubt Charley Reese must just be another 'textbook Jew-Hater' and be dismissed as such by the apologists of the War Party, both in the US & Israel, for daring to out these war mongers.....
Israel's Bad Influence
by Charley Reese - January 6, 2007
Scott Ritter, a former U.N. arms inspector in Iraq, has written a book, Target Iran, in which he accuses the Israeli government and its American lobby of pushing the U.S. into attacking Iran.
Ritter writes, "Let there be no doubt: If there is an American war with Iran, it is a war that was made in Israel." He accuses some members of the lobby of dual loyalty and urges that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee be required to register as a foreign agent.
He also blasts the Israeli lobby for its use of the Holocaust and for crying anti-Semite every time Israel is criticized. "This is a sickening trend that must be ended," he writes.
By coincidence, an Israeli general has verified everything Ritter says. According to an article published in Today.az on Jan. 2, Israeli Brig. Gen. Oded Tira published a statement urging an all-out effort by Israel and its lobby to push a U.S. attack on Iran.
"President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran," the general is quoted as saying. "As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and U.S. newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iran issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure."
The general urges the Israeli lobby to turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they support immediate action by Bush against Iran. The lobby must also approach the Europeans, he adds, so Bush won't find himself isolated, and he calls for Israel to "clandestinely cooperate with Saudi Arabia so that it also persuades the U.S. to strike Iran."
As Ritter says, a U.S. war in Iran will be a war made in Israel.
Of course, Israel's American supporters, most of whom are ignorant of nuclear energy, ignorant of the history of Israel and ignorant of the people in the Middle East, will trot out their usual specious arguments.
But let's lay out the undeniable facts. Israel considers Iran its main threat. Israel wants a U.S. attack against Iran. The Israeli lobby does what the Israeli government tells it to do. Anybody who claims the Israeli lobby is just another lobby is either ignorant or lying. The Israeli lobby is the second most, if not the most, powerful lobby in America.
So, sit back and watch the Israeli amen corner start the propaganda to push America to war with Iran just as it did in the case of Iraq. It will try to have you believe that Iran can make nuclear weapons as easily as baking cakes. The truth is that even if Iran decided to seek nuclear weapons, the Iranians are a good 10 years away from having any. The truth is that Iran, even if it had nuclear weapons, is no threat to the U.S.
All of which reminds me of my favorite undiplomatic comment by a diplomat. Some time ago at a private party in London, the French ambassador said of Israel, "Why does the world put up with such a sh*tty little country causing so much trouble?" Outraged British Zionists demanded his recall, but the French government ignored them.
Sooner or later, Americans are going to wake up to the fact that Israel's influence on the American government is detrimental. If Israel wants a war with Iran, let the Israelis fight it. Of course, seeing how poorly they did against Hezbollah, I suspect that the Israelis, despite their public threats, would not choose to fight the Iranians.
In my opinion, Americans who want American youth to die and bleed for the benefit of a foreign country are guilty of more than dual loyalty.
Lots of criticism for assumptions that Israel wants war with Iran while no comment on Iran's repeated provocations and openly stated desire to see Israel destroyed. Israel has had nukes for something like 40 years and has never used them and never stated that they want to. Iran on the other hand.....
Oh, and about the author - wik
Oh, and about the author - wik
Somehow, I think this guy has his own bias that clearly filters through in his work (notice in previous work, he focused on the "Jewish Lobby", not "Israeli").
Here's one of Reese's columns from this past August and a response from one of the papers that printed the column.
Article http://www.tampabayprimer.org/index.cfm?action=articles&drill=viewArt&art=1471
Response
Article http://www.tampabayprimer.org/index.cfm?action=articles&drill=viewArt&art=1471
Response
papasmerf said:
Iran probably has the same plans for the USA as they do for Isreal
Don't they see the USA as the great satan??
I think if the elected President of a large nation said explicitly that the would like to wipe the US off the map we'd have a plan or two on the shelf.Cobster said:
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"Woodpeckr" In my opinion, Americans who want American youth to die and bleed for the benefit of a foreign country are guilty of more than dual loyalty.[/QUOTE]
Well thankfully that is just your opinion.
What nerve you have to state what you wrote here totally disrepectful! You put down America for sending their sons and daughters to fight and protect our allies over seas yet care none how Iran are preparing their children from tottlers to hate and to commit suicide for their our selfish reasons and for their own beliefs. It's not even about protecting or defending our allies any more it's about protecting OURSELVES. Even before 911 iraq and iran had been making threats to the U.S it wasnt until after 911 when we began to listen.
Iran, iraq and every other country aiding them with any means to try to do so, want to see us all die and if that is what you want well why are you even living in this country? Whether we Fight or not these iran, iraq extremist are not going any where until they succeed in their goals and that is to wipe us out. So in my opinion we need to wipe them out first!
It is sad that war kills innocent children as they are innocent in all of this. Heard the news say today two new born twins have died in a fight the other day. But these are the tragedies of war. Peace cant happen if their are people who want to see other people unlike themselves die just because of indifference.
Your one sad sad sad individual buddy and you should be asshamed to be a Canadian!
Susan
It's only my opinion
Well thankfully that is just your opinion.
What nerve you have to state what you wrote here totally disrepectful! You put down America for sending their sons and daughters to fight and protect our allies over seas yet care none how Iran are preparing their children from tottlers to hate and to commit suicide for their our selfish reasons and for their own beliefs. It's not even about protecting or defending our allies any more it's about protecting OURSELVES. Even before 911 iraq and iran had been making threats to the U.S it wasnt until after 911 when we began to listen.
Iran, iraq and every other country aiding them with any means to try to do so, want to see us all die and if that is what you want well why are you even living in this country? Whether we Fight or not these iran, iraq extremist are not going any where until they succeed in their goals and that is to wipe us out. So in my opinion we need to wipe them out first!
It is sad that war kills innocent children as they are innocent in all of this. Heard the news say today two new born twins have died in a fight the other day. But these are the tragedies of war. Peace cant happen if their are people who want to see other people unlike themselves die just because of indifference.
Your one sad sad sad individual buddy and you should be asshamed to be a Canadian!
Susan
It's only my opinion
