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Volkswagen briefly becomes world's top company

Sarah Marsh
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
FRANKFURT — Volkswagen briefly became the world's biggest company by market value on Tuesday, as short sellers continued to pile into the stock on weekend news Porsche had bought up much of VW's remaining free float.

Shares in the German car maker hit an intraday high of €1,005.01, valuing the company at €296.06-billion euros ($370.4-billion) based on ordinary stock, more than that of world number one company Exxon Mobil Corp's $343-billion market value at Monday's closing price.

The shares later eased back to stand 25.4 per cent higher at €652.00 at 1103 GMT, after tripling in the previous session.

Porsche said on Sunday it held over 74 per cent of VW, prompting a panic among short sellers who had sold VW shares in the hope of buying them back at lower prices.

German regulator Bafin saud it was looking at the VW share movement to see if any insider trading or market manipulation had taken place.

“Each and any short seller in the world is trying to close up their position and there is no way they can do it except for trying to buy like mad,” said FrankfurtFinanz analyst Heino Ruland.

“Someone is selling it at a rather interesting and rich price – it is about 10 times as much as it should trade.”

Analysts and traders said the stampede was historic for German large caps.

“We were joking before about the share price hitting €1,000, and all of a sudden, it was there,” said one Frankfurt-based trader. “This is perverse.”

VW shares could continue to rise, or stay at current historic levels, experts said.

“The problem is, from a fundamental point of view, shares are really overvalued. But when the short squeeze comes to an end, there are not enough shares available to bring the share price back down,” said one Frankfurt-based analyst.

Despite the massive rise in VW shares and talk of little free float remaining, the Frankfurt Stock Exchange said it did not plan any changes in the German blue-chip DAX index.

It has said in the past that if the free float in Volkswagen's ordinary shares were to fall below 5 per cent, the Frankfurt Stock Exchange's index revision committee would automatically replace them in the DAX index with the top-ranked stock measured by free-float market capitalization and trading volume.

Porsche said on Sunday it held stock and options equivalent to 74 per cent of Europe's biggest carmaker and aimed to push through a domination agreement next year that would give it management control and capture VW's mighty cash flows.

This will almost certainly meet objections from VW's home state of Lower Saxony, which controls just over 20 per cent. In return for losing their dividend, minority investors would get an annual cash payout set by Porsche.

Analysts questioned Porsche's motives in announcing its holding, and suggested the company may have wanted to cash in one last big jackpot at the expense of unsuspecting investors.

Tim Schuldt, an analyst at Equinet, said Porsche's announcement seemed like an invitation for hedge funds to pile into the stock and cover their shorts. He said the problem was that there was only a free float of around 5.8 per cent, and many of these free floating shares were actually held in index-tracking funds and other portfolios.

“For Porsche we don't know their real intentions ... it could be that if they managed to cash in at these levels obviously that would be extremely positive for their share price, for the value of their company,” said Mr. Schuldt.

Shares in Porsche, whose spokesman was not available for immediate comment, were up 6.8 per cent.
 

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This is a bit like when Larry Ellison was the world's richest man... enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't.

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onthebottom said:
This is a bit like when Larry Ellison was the world's richest man... enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't.
My prediction is that GM will not overtake it soon. LOL
 

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danmand said:
My prediction is that GM will not overtake it soon. LOL
GM should take a few cues from VW. A textbook example of how to use government protection to become one of the strongest auto companies around.
 

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onthebottom said:
This is a bit like when Larry Ellison was the world's richest man... enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't.

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Lawrence Joseph "Larry" Ellison (born August 17, 1944) is an American entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Oracle Corporation, a major enterprise software company. He is currently listed on Forbes list of billionaires as the #14 richest person in the world as of August 29, 2008.

14th isn't bad.
 

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Meister said:
GM should take a few cues from VW. A textbook example of how to use government protection to become one of the strongest auto companies around.

You are kidding, right?

They make cars people want to buy.
 

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Meister said:
GM should take a few cues from VW. A textbook example of how to use government protection to become one of the strongest auto companies around.
GOP will never allow that!
They call that Socialism!....:rolleyes:
 

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danmand said:
My prediction is that GM will not overtake it soon. LOL
There's a safe bet, like we won't attack Iran....

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Lawrence Joseph "Larry" Ellison (born August 17, 1944) is an American entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Oracle Corporation, a major enterprise software company. He is currently listed on Forbes list of billionaires as the #14 richest person in the world as of August 29, 2008.

14th isn't bad.
The first Billion is the hardest.....

He had a very funny line when he passed Gates briefly, when asked he said he would have rather passed Gates on his way up instead of Bill way down but either way it was OK. The same speech he said he was late because his plane was stuck behind the inventor of the internet in AF2....

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Did he get the autograph of that very very famous person?....:cool:
 

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onthebottom said:
The first Billion is the hardest.....

He had a very funny line when he passed Gates briefly, when asked he said he would have rather passed Gates on his way up instead of Bill way down but either way it was OK. The same speech he said he was late because his plane was stuck behind the inventor of the internet in AF2....
Him and I worked in the same company way back, at the same level.
 

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Him and I worked in the same company way back, at the same level.
Gates, Ellison or Gore?



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danmand said:
Well, given he founded Oracle over 30 years ago with David Miner, who died of cancer, you're either reborn, very old or prevaricating....

Or maybe you have a loose interpretation of "the same level".

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danmand said:
You are kidding, right?

They make cars people want to buy.
Of course, but it wasn't always like that. During the VW bad years the government protected them from takeover and having to make poor strategic decisions and they came out stronger.
Oh wait, the US government is finally doing the same thing with GM. If the US can carry GM til 2011 then we'll have the new models out.
 

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onthebottom said:
Well, given he founded Oracle over 30 years ago with David Miner, who died of cancer, you're either reborn, very old or prevaricating....

Or maybe you have a loose interpretation of "the same level".

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Bump.....

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onthebottom said:
Well, given he founded Oracle over 30 years ago with David Miner, who died of cancer, you're either reborn, very old or prevaricating....

Or maybe you have a loose interpretation of "the same level".

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Or maybe they both worked together at Ampex? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison#Career

jwm
 

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