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Putin has given enough ethnic Russians in Ukrainian, Russian citizenship now, with enough of them in the Ukrainian military to pose a profound security risk which make for the potential for severe internal divisions in the Ukraine and adds to the external threat from Moscow. This will make it easier for Russia to take a chunk of the Ukraine that has a large RussIan population who will willing spread their legs and have long since been wet with anticipation of an annexation.
Late this year or early next year when China, ally of convenience with Putin moves onTaiwan, the West will be mostly hapless to and launch a very anemic lip service response.
If Putin fails, then he will be castrated and vanish.

And how would this malignant mental midget of a cocksucker and his followers with delusions of grandeur for attempting and failing to establish a 1000 year reich like to know that Moscow controls the energy pipeline to Deutschland in 2022?
 
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Insidious Von

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Shouldn't Vlady be more concerned about the upcoming baseball season, leave the borscht to Mikheyev.

In other news, Mike Lindell puckers up for his Messiah and Handsome Ted Cruz wishes Playgirl was still around.

 

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Putin has given enough ethnic Russians in Ukrainian, Russian citizenship now, with enough of them in the Ukrainian military to pose a profound security risk which make for the potential for severe internal divisions in the Ukraine and adds to the external threat from Moscow. This will make it easier for Russia to take a chunk of the Ukraine that has a large RussIan population who will willing spread their legs and have long since been wet with anticipation of an annexation.
Late this year or early next year when China, ally of convenience with Putin moves onTaiwan, the West will be mostly hapless to and launch a very anemic lip service response.
If Putin fails, then he will be castrated and vanish.

And how would this malignant mental midget of a cocksucker and his followers with delusions of grandeur for attempting and failing to establish a 1000 year reich like to know that Moscow controls the energy pipeline to Deutschland in 2022?
You could write a book. Everybody is writing a book these days...
 
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Shouldn't Vlady be more concerned about the upcoming baseball season, leave the borscht to Mikheyev.

In other news, Mike Lindell puckers up for his Messiah and Handsome Ted Cruz wishes Playgirl was still around.

Although I can't imagine ever missing either Cruz or pillow guy, if the righties find a realistic way to break Verizon's landline monopoly around here I'd sign up...
 

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The methods may be different but the aim is the same.

We've seen this ploy before from Putin, in 2008 he invaded Georgia to end the rule of democrat Mikhail Saakasvilli. He was fine with the Ukraine being semi-independent as long as the oligarchs were running the country. In Volodymyr Zelensky, he sees another Saakasvilli, he cannot tolerate democracy so close to home.

Similarly with the UK, eventually Article 16 will be invoked. The NI Protocol is working too well, the Ulster Constabulary cannot tolerate the native Irish becoming richer. Even less the idea of being absorbed by the Republic, they're calling the shots with Westminster. They are willing to rip up The Good Friday Accord as long as they own Northern Ireland. England will align with Russia by the end of the decade, they'll become dependent on Russian and Saudi money.

 

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The methods may be different but the aim is the same.

We've seen this ploy before from Putin, in 2008 he invaded Georgia to end the rule of democrat Mikhail Saakasvilli. He was fine with the Ukraine being semi-independent as long as the oligarchs were running the country. In Volodymyr Zelensky, he sees another Saakasvilli, he cannot tolerate democracy so close to home.

Similarly with the UK, eventually Article 16 will be invoked. The NI Protocol is working too well, the Ulster Constabulary cannot tolerate the native Irish becoming richer. Even less the idea of being absorbed by the Republic, they're calling the shots with Westminster. They are willing to rip up The Good Friday Accord as long as they own Northern Ireland. England will align with Russia by the end of the decade, they'll become dependent on Russian and Saudi money.

Meanwhile, Putin is meeting with 25 Italian business leaders.Business between Russia and Italy is booming.
 

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Meanwhile, Putin is meeting with 25 Italian business leaders.Business between Russia and Italy is booming.
The video starts @ 4:20.

This is nothing new. When Ivan III broke the yoke of the Golden Horde, he invited Italian architects to turn Moscow from a city of wood to a city of stone and marble.

 
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Putin has given enough ethnic Russians in Ukrainian, Russian citizenship now, with enough of them in the Ukrainian military to pose a profound security risk which make for the potential for severe internal divisions in the Ukraine and adds to the external threat from Moscow.
Ukrainian National Guard soldier turns gun on fellow soldiers. Killing 5 and wounding 5.
 

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Ukrainian National Guard soldier turns gun on fellow soldiers. Killing 5 and wounding 5.
Maybe a Russian backed coup will happen in the Ukraine that might invite Putin in, giving him an excuse to invade ?
 

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Putin has given enough ethnic Russians in Ukrainian, Russian citizenship now, with enough of them in the Ukrainian military to pose a profound security risk which make for the potential for severe internal divisions in the Ukraine and adds to the external threat from Moscow. This will make it easier for Russia to take a chunk of the Ukraine that has a large RussIan population who will willing spread their legs and have long since been wet with anticipation of an annexation.
Late this year or early next year when China, ally of convenience with Putin moves onTaiwan, the West will be mostly hapless to and launch a very anemic lip service response.
If Putin fails, then he will be castrated and vanish.

And how would this malignant mental midget of a cocksucker and his followers with delusions of grandeur for attempting and failing to establish a 1000 year reich like to know that Moscow controls the energy pipeline to Deutschland in 2022?
Vlad is not interested in controlling the Ukraine. The Donbass rebellion was fomented to secure parts of the USSR MIC that was in Eastern Ukraine. Now this has been accomplished Vlad would be content for these parts to be autonomous regions. In the longer run, if a Western linked Ukraine does well this will dissolve if it does not then they will stay linked with Russia.
 

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Maybe a Russian backed coup will happen in the Ukraine that might invite Putin in, giving him an excuse to invade ?
Well since the current situation arose from a western backed coup, that would not be surprising.
 
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Vlad is not interested in controlling the Ukraine. The Donbass rebellion was fomented to secure parts of the USSR MIC that was in Eastern Ukraine. Now this has been accomplished Vlad would be content for these parts to be autonomous regions. In the longer run, if a Western linked Ukraine does well this will dissolve if it does not then they will stay linked with Russia.
It was agreed 2014 in Minsk, that Donbass should become an autonomous region.

Kiev just did not implement the agreement.
 
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It was agreed 2014 in Minsk, that Donbass should become an autonomous region.

Kiev just did not implement the agreement.
Did Biden's call have some effect?
 

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The Ukraine inherited a large nuclear arsenal from the former Soviet Union. Where are they pointed at , maybe a couple at Moscow? Usually nuclear arsenal have functioned as a deterrent in the past.
If Putin moves into the Ukraine, then there would have to be a lot of diplomacy and secret deals done
before hand to avoid any chances of major destruction. Yes Putin has pumped a lot of Russian passports into the Ukraine but there remains many Ukrainian nationalists that have had enough of the perpetual Russian meddling, threats and assassination attempts of their leaders like Yushchenko. Putin was almost certain that Trump would get a second term which would have made the annexation of the Ukraine somewhat more likely.

Taiwan has no nuclear deterrent and after the Olympic, China will annex them. The West cannot handle the Kremlin and Beijing simultaneously.
 

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The Ukraine inherited a large nuclear arsenal from the former Soviet Union. Where are they pointed at , maybe a couple at Moscow? Usually nuclear arsenal have functioned as a deterrent in the past.
If Putin moves into the Ukraine, then there would have to be a lot of diplomacy and secret deals done
before hand to avoid any chances of major destruction. Yes Putin has pumped a lot of Russian passports into the Ukraine but there remains many Ukrainian nationalists that have had enough of the perpetual Russian meddling, threats and assassination attempts of their leaders like Yushchenko. Putin was almost certain that Trump would get a second term which would have made the annexation of the Ukraine somewhat more likely.

Taiwan has no nuclear deterrent and after the Olympic, China will annex them. The West cannot handle the Kremlin and Beijing simultaneously.
I believe Ukraine dismantled its nuclear arsenal. From Wikipedia:

In 1994 Ukraine agreed to destroy the weapons, and to join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
 
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