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WoodPeckr

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OK, got a 160GB laptop with Vista Home prem last week.
So far this Toshiba with Vista are running fine without any problems.
160GB translated to ~131GB usuable free space brand new with Vista.
I've been watching the free space slowly decrease every day and today it is down to 125GB free space!
Added a few programs and apps but nowhere hear 6 GBs worth. Maybe added 1/2GB at most! So the question is where is all this crap accumulating and being hid? Haven't done any serious downloading with it yet.
Still learning the inner workings of Vista. Tried tracking it down but don't know where to look.
I'm curous how 6 GBs vanished in less than a week from just running Vista and surfing the net. This never happened with Win 98 or XP.
 
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It's called system volume information and it shadows files for backup. Disabling system restore should delete the files.
 
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was the 131 free after Vista downloaded updates or before? They can take up a good amount of space ..........
 
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slurp said:
was the 131 free after Vista downloaded updates or before? They can take up a good amount of space ..........
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Before the Vista updates.
Out of curiosity I checked the free space right out of the box and got 131.

Horney_Senior said:
Check your temp files. They can fill up pretty quick too.
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I frequently run CCleaner which I believe cleans them out.
 
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It could easly be temp files and log file from the program you install Vista does have a lot of loging options. You could right click you c: drive and go to proterties and select disk cleanup. It will show you where a lot of hidden files are that you don't need.

I could get SpaceMonger 1.4 to work on my vista but I have the home one install now. upgrading to business next week.
 
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lastal2020 said:
It could easly be temp files and log file from the program you install Vista does have a lot of loging options. You could right click you c: drive and go to proterties and select disk cleanup. It will show you where a lot of hidden files are that you don't need.

I could get SpaceMonger 1.4 to work on my vista but I have the home one install now. upgrading to business next week.
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Try Windirstat

http://windirstat.info/

http://windirstat.info/images/windirstat.jpg
 
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cypherpunk said:
It's called system volume information and it shadows files for backup. Disabling system restore should delete the files.
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Figured it was probably going there.
Will it cause any harm disabling system restore?
Anything worth saving gets put on an external HDD or burned to CD.
I've never had to use system restore yet and been told not to count on it because it farks up a lot.
 
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WoodPeckr said:
Will it cause any harm disabling system restore?
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No, but any time you change a factory preset, you're exposing yourself to a potential headache. You can research potential problems if you're worried about it.
 
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cypherpunk said:
It's called system volume information and it shadows files for backup. Disabling system restore should delete the files.
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Talked with the 'Geek Squad' chief at BB today and he suggested the same.
So, went ahead and took the plunge and disabled system restore and instantly freed up just over 21GB of free space. That where it all was. The only downside seems to be all restore points are gone but in all the time running XP I never had to use that feature. One time I tried to but it wasn't working and ended up formatting the drive, which corrected everything.
 
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Suggest you not disable system restore unless you back up your entire system in some way and often. I ghost my drives to an external drive for backup. Install a good system cleaner like ccleaner. Ccleaner has many options for cleaning your drive and many are not checked off after installation. Look at this and decide what options you require. Some cleaners do not automatically delete your Prefetch data. You need to delete them manually and then your cleaner will delete them from your recycle bin.

I believe that this "shrinkage" is likely only due to your initial use and regular care would keep it that way as long as you don't add to your computer. (Like that won't happen).:D

Remember also that any updates to vista like service packs can use up disk space as well as any other updates you might do.

125gb is a lot of space........don't save shit or precious items on your disk...backup....backup...backup....backup ......i can't say it enough. If its worth saving or necessary, back it up!
 
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I pretty much backup anything important on an external drive. It's amazing what CCleaner and Spybot allow you to see and clean up when you right click and run them as the administrator! In this advanced setting they allow for quite a bit of fine tuning.

Right now my HDD has grown to 128GB of free space since disabling system restore.....it was down to 106GB before being disabled a couple days ago. After checking out my PC at Best But it had 136GB free space new, out of the box. So far put about 8GB on it from downloading stuff, new apps (heck Nero 8 takes 1.6GB!) Vista updates and SP1. Did notice since disabling system restore I'm not picking up any crap at all, very similar to XP now. Also the scans of Adaware and Spybot went twice as fast as before since it didn't have all those restore points, some extra 22GB of data, to scan.

Also I shutdown almost everything when going to start>run>'msconfig' > startup. Everything is running better and faster than ever, including a quicker boot up time.
 
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I am surprised that anyone would disable System Restore in order to save
space for a few more songs or movieclips.

Restore is the one feature, that is outstanding in Windows.
 
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danmand said:
Restore is the one feature, that is outstanding in Windows.
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Yeah, until you really need it and it doesn't work!
It has a high failure rate. It quit working on XP for me long time ago.
It's pretty much a 'band-aid' fix anyways. If it's something serious system restore won't fix it.

I have a better system restore fix, an old HDD with a clean version of XP PRO on it. When I have a serious problem I just put that old drive in and format the problem drive, hook it up as a slave to the old drive then copy the whole contents, OS and all over, then swap drives again, putting the problem drive back as the primary C drive. Takes less than an hour to be up and running again like new. Don't even need an XP reinstall CD for this.
 
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If you can get a copy of Norton Ghost version 6 you can ghost a drive in about 10 minutes. Its worth looking into if you ever get a hold of a copy.

Glad you back stuff up.
 
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