Vance meets with leader of far-right German political party backed by Musk

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The vice president met with the leaders of all four major German political parties — including Alice Weidel, leader of the far-right Alternative for Germany.

JD Vance met Friday with the leader of the far-right German political party being boosted by Elon Musk, according to a person familiar with the meeting granted anonymity to discuss the vice president’s schedule.

Vance was in Munich for a security conference, where earlier in the day he had blasted Europe over immigration and censorship of free speech that he suggested targeted right-leaning people and political parties.

Vance met with the leaders of all four major German political parties, the person said — including Alice Weidel, the leader of the far-right Alternative for Germany, or AFD. He also met this week with German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and Chancellor Olaf Scholz earlier in the week in Paris.

It was not immediately clear what Vance and Weidel discussed. A spokesperson for Vance declined to comment on what Vance discussed with any of the leaders.

Musk — the world’s richest man, DOGE chief, and close adviser to President Donald Trump — has been publicly supporting AFD ahead of Germany’s snap election, which is in less than two weeks. Last month, the billionaire appeared virtually at an AFD rally, urging the crowd to “move on” from “past guilt.”

Musk — an unelected official displaying unprecedented power over the federal government, which he hopes to completely transform — has garnered intense criticism over what detractors say is an effort to influence a foreign election. But Vance on Friday hit back on those claims.

“If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg’s scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk,” Vance said, comparing a 22-year-old Swedish climate activist with the owner of X and CEO of Tesla and SpaceX.

 
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BREAKING: JD Vance suffers a humiliating moment on the world stage, as only 3 people clapped at his failed attempt to minimize the damaging impact Russian meddling can have on a country's democratic elections. The Trump Admin is a huge embarrassment.

Vance fucked up badly. All the EU leaders now hate him and will no longer cooperate with the USA.
 

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No.

He refused to meet with the German head of state because he chose to meet with the neo nazis. That's it. That's the story.
Hold on, what do you mean “no”. I quoted the article. That’s what the article claims, not me. “Vance met with the leaders of all four major German political parties
 
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BREAKING: German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius: “U.S. Vice President JD Vance’s speech at the Munich Security Conference was unacceptable”

Wow. They are literally setting our alliances on fire.
 

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That’s an opinion, that the US government should not interfere into the internal politics. Sounds reasonable, for the Germans. I agree with their position, generally speaking. The situation in Germany may be more nuanced and there might be reasons I am unaware of why the US government chose to meet with the leaders of all major parties rather than just the ruling party. Upcoming elections?

But again your original sensationalist article is a BS story (with the sole purpose to agonize about the meeting with the “far right” party leader) Because in reality the dude met with all party leaders, not just one.

And as far as I know AfD are not Nazis anyway
 
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Free speech "is in retreat" in Britain, says JD Vance, whose own Government is now targeting critical news organisations with politically-motivated investigations, while banning others from the White House for the crime of referring to the Gulf of Mexico by its actual name


Everything Vance is saying is code for supporting Far Right parties in Europe.
 

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The German press reports that JD Vance met with AfD co-leader Alice Weidel after his speech in Munich today. (Vance refused to meet Olaf Scholz, Germany's chancellor.)

Hard to overstate the outrage in Munich over JD Vance's actions today. A de facto campaign speech on behalf of the AfD 1 week before the election, entirely devoid of substance on security, when Europe craves an understanding of US policy on Ukraine. And then a meeting with Weidel

Some context for my new US followers. The AfD is considered sufficiently extreme that parts of the party are under domestic surveillance. Marine Le Pen considers them beyond the pale. Some embassies in Germany refuse all contact. It is no trivial matter for a VP to meet with them
 

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German nationalism

Main article: Völkisch nationalism

Over time, a focus on German nationalism, on reclaiming Germany's sovereignty and national pride, especially in repudiation of Germany's culture of shame with regard to its Nazi past, became more central in AfD's ideology and a central plank in its populist appeals.[22][23][24] Petry, who led the moderate wing of the party, said that Germany should reclaim völkisch from its Nazi connotations,[199] while the more right-wing Björn Höcke regularly speaks of the Vaterland ("fatherland") and Volk ("nation" or "people", but with a strong ethnic or racial connotation).[22]

In January 2017, Höcke in a speech stated, in reference to the Berlin Holocaust Memorial, that "Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital" and criticized this "laughable policy of coming to terms with the past".[200][201] Höcke continued that Germany should make a "180 degree" turn with regard to its sense of national pride.[22]


Antisemitism

According to a study conducted by the Forsa Institute in 2019, while 2% of the German population agreed with the statement that "the Holocaust is propaganda of the Allied Powers," that proportion was 15% among AfD supporters.[202] In 2001, 12 years before the founding of the AfD, former AfD Bundestag member Wilhelm von Gottberg expressed his views on the remembrance of the Holocaust by quoting Italian neofascist Mario Consoli in saying "Any pretext, no matter how flimsy [...], is good enough to remind people of the Holocaust. The propaganda steamroller is getting stronger rather than weaker over the years, and in more and more countries the Jewish 'truth' about the Holocaust is being given legal protection. The Holocaust must remain a myth, a dogma that is beyond the reach of any free historical research."[203] In 2017, ten AfD Bundestag members were found to have participated in a closed Facebook group named "the Patriots" in which, among other things, antisemitic, racist, pro-Nazi and conspiratorial posts were widespread. One meme posted therein, which showed Holocaust victim Anne Frank's face edited on a pizza box labelled "The Oven-fresh", gained particular media attention. While some AfD officials stated that they had been unknowingly added to the Facebook group without consent and that they had now left it, Bundestag member Stephan Protschka remained, saying "I am a member of this group because I also see myself as a patriot."[204][205][206]

According to a 2019 report by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, statements by leading AfD representatives such as Alexander Gauland and Björn Höcke, who exonerate Holocaust perpetrators and discredit the reappraisal of the Nazi era as "anti-German", create a "connectivity" to right-wing extremist historical revisionism and could "ultimately lead to denial of war guilt and the Holocaust".[207] In 2023, Felix Klein, the Federal Government Commissioner for Jewish Life in Germany and the Fight against antisemitism, stated that leading forces within the AfD relativize the Holocaust and that the party condones antisemitism.[208]

Josef Schuster, President of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, stated in 2024 that he is "concerned that the AfD would deliberately act against Jewish life, if it fits into their concept", and that the party offers antisemites a home.[209][210] A study commissioned by the American Jewish Committee in 2021 came to the conclusion that antisemitism belongs to the "programmatic core" of the AfD. According to the study, the party conducts "targeted campaigns" against Jewish celebrities. The study's author, de:Lars Rensmann, stated that "despite some lip service to the contrary, hostility towards Israel, Holocaust relativization, antisemitic conspiracy thinking and anti-Jewish images occupy a prominent place" in the AfD.

They love the Adolph and ass-kiss the 88.
 

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Thanks for the info. Officially AfD denies the allegations of being a neo-Nazi party. I didn’t know they have idiots among them or their supporters sharing some of the Nazi sentiment.

Unfortunate for the Germans and a direct result of their indiscriminate suicidal immigration policy. Obviously in Germany there’s an acute populist need in a nationalist, anti immigration movement.
 
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