Use of sponge during period. Carry on as normal with DATY

[captnkirk]

I have been hobbying since 1987. In that time I have had my fair share of sessions where I have felt, on the tip of my fingers or cock, the IUD strings or the sponge that the SP was using as birth control.

This week an SP told me that her apartment mate uses the sponge as a temporary tampon when she is entertaining clients while having her period. Just before client arrives the tampon comes out and the sponge goes in.

That is probably normal behaviour for any female, SP or regular GF. (Although most of my real GF are perfectly ok with some messy sex on a towel followed by a shower.)

What is not normal, nor safe IMO, is that this 20 something SP makes no mention to the client that she is having her period and imposes no cautionary restrictions on DATY.

Many of us have met an SP who, during her period, offers greek in lieu of regular intercourse. In the old days, before BBBJ became common, an SP would offer BBBJ as a "special" during that time of the month and that was the only time you would get a BBBJ.

Allowing a client to DATY, when there is the potential of exposure to HIV, HPV, etc via blood, is a dangerous practice and dishonest when you are not telling the client upfront.

 

[dirkd101]

You make a great point here Kirk, that there is a higher risk involved when a lady is on her period and that she should be upfront with the client during this time. I'm sure many, if not all of the ladies who chime in will say that they get tested regularly and that there is risk involved with many aspects of seeing an escort. In this case, it has been taken to a higher level and regardless of being tested, because you are only as good as your last test, not your last client, the lady should tell any client that she is menstruating and that certain activities are out of the question.
Also, the risk here goes both ways and actually opens a woman up to other issues, like a yeast infection or virus transmission becomes easier.

 

[ElCapitain]

Hepatitis is another risk with this.

Another situation I'm wary of is when a woman has spotting after DATY/digits and says it's because she just finished her period. Obviously this is often true, but spotting after stimulation is also one of the most common signs of chlamydia. Something to be aware of.

 

[IM469]

Another situation I'm wary of is when a woman has spotting after DATY/digits and says it's because she just finished her period. Obviously this is often true, but spotting after stimulation is also one of the most common signs of chlamydia. Something to be aware of.

Hmm-mm Now I'm wondering if my last SP wasn't really a virgin .....

 

[MissCroft]

In that time I have had my fair share of sessions where I have felt, on the tip of my fingers or cock, the IUD strings or the sponge that the SP was using as birth control.

Menstrual blood does not have a higher HIV viral load than regular, everyday vaginal fluids/secretions. I am getting tired of hearing this from men who don't understand. I wish more men would do their research. I understand the fear but I just find it silly when a guy says something like, "Oh my god, she was on her period. Now I'm going to die!"



The IUD is a long-term method of birth control. It is not a barrier.

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[LisbethNova]

I feel like this is more a thread about guys being scared of periods than anything else. And an escort on her period god forbid!!! lol Sorry this is comical to me.

 

[MissCroft]

One study I read showed that semen may actually contain the highest HIV viral load. More than vaginal fluids and even blood. It's never been proven for sure though but I'm sure most men on this board have no problem with coming in an SP's mouth.(?) A lot of men have no problem with a woman's pussy juice dripping or squirting in their mouths but would freak at the sight of a little drop of menstrual blood, which actually doesn't contain as much blood as most think. It's like dropping a drop of red food colouring in a glass of water. It looks like a lot of blood but most of the content is the same stuff that comes out at every other day of the month.

Besides, even if menstrual blood does contain a higher viral load (probably only slight if it does), a woman squirting/gushing into your mouth vs. a couple of drops of menstrual blood.....well I think then there would be more of the virus in the former because of the big difference in the amount.

I think a lot of people get confused about the whole blood thing. HIV is dangerous if it gets into your bloodstream, not necessarily if someone's blood gets on you.

I feel like this is more a thread about guys being scared of periods than anything else.

Yes.


With that said, I don't see clients during that time. Those are my days off.

Oral is relatively safe. And as long as everyone gets everything tested regularly (I get tested every 4 months) and plays safe, it's all good.

 

[dirkd101]

This can also be looked at from another perspective and that is if one has seen their dentist or they floss aggressively, one should also refrain from visiting a SP. If you do floss aggressively, then skip it for that day, as both of these can cause slight gum bleeds as well.

 

[captnkirk]

Menstrual blood does not have a higher HIV viral load than regular, everyday vaginal fluids/secretions..

Well I am no MD, and I cannot recall the last Holiday Inn that I stayed at, so I asked the Oracle. The results says otherwise:

"Does my menstrual cycle affect my risk of passing on HIV? The risk of you passing on HIV can vary depending on where you are in your menstrual cycle. The levels of HIV in vaginal fluid vary. They are likely to be highest around the time of your period, when cells containing HIV are most likely to be found in vaginal fluid, along with blood. Someone giving you oral sex will be at higher risk of HIV infection around the time of your period, if they have bleeding gums, sores or wounds, or a sore throat, inflammation or untreated infection in the mouth. Being on effective HIV treatment significantly lowers the risk of you passing on HIV. There is evidence that being on treatment with a combination of anti-HIV drugs can reduce viral load in vaginal secretions as well as in blood. You can reduce the risk further by using a dental dam (a sheet of latex), or using a piece of latex cut from a condom, as protection." http://www.tht.org.uk/myhiv/Staying-healthy/Living-with-HIV-long-term/Menstruation

"Oral sex has been shown to be a less risky activity, but it is not risk free. Again, it depends on the viral load of the person with HIV and the dental health of the person performing oral sex.....
For women, the levels of HIV in vaginal fluid vary. They are likely to be highest around the time of menstruation (having your period), when HIV-bearing cells shed from the cervix are most likely to be found in vaginal fluid, along with blood. Oral sex will therefore be more risky around the time of menstruation." http://www.aidsmap.com/Oral-sex/page/1044877/

"For a cunnilingus (oral sex on a woman) recipient, the chance of HIV transmission is also low, although the entire vagina is a mucous membrane through which, theoretically, the virus could be transmitted. A woman receiving cunnilingus is more at risk of getting herpes or gonorrhea from her partner than of contracting HIV. Also, a person giving oral sex to a woman may want to avoid doing so during her period, as menstrual blood can carry enough HIV to spread an infection." http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/hiv-transmission-cunnilingus-or-receiving-oral-sex

Those were just the first 3 sites that the Oracle listed.

I understand the fear but I just find it silly when a guy says something like, "Oh my god, she was on her period. Now I'm going to die!" .

Actually with my partners over time I have found that period sex can be some of the wildest, horniest and of course most slippery sex ever. If I did die in the middle of it I would die happy.

Re: you taking those days off, be it because you do not feel 100% or for your own personal feelings, thank you.

 

[lomotil]

This is not good business practice, not good for repeat business for most customers, hygiene, common sense and common courtesy aside. Agencies would not like it either but the trade is far from regulated.

 

[captnkirk]

..... but the trade is far from regulated.

And like pot it needs to be regulated. Like pot take away the share of revenues that are currently funding the pimps / bikers / underworld. Completely legalize it with regulations and taxation.

 

[Misty4me]

Bodily fluids , semen, vaginal secretions , period blood , fecal matter from rimming are all risks when partaking in this hobby . You all know this it is nothing new , don't sugar coat it by saying a certain type of bodily fluid is at higher risk . Practice safe sex with every sex act and you don't have to worry as much about the risks . And again it makes no difference if it's an escort or a civy the risk is the same you don't know how many sexual partner either has had so play it safe with both !

 

[MissCroft]

And again it makes no difference if it's an escort or a civy the risk is the same you don't know how many sexual partner either has had so play it safe with both !

Very true. For the most part, I see regulars. I probably have sex with fewer men than some 'civilian' women out there! lol


Another thing to remember is you should not brush, floss or shave right before an appointment. I know some men do this.

Actually with my partners over time I have found that period sex can be some of the wildest, horniest and of course most slippery sex ever. If I did die in the middle of it I would die happy.

Re: you taking those days off, be it because you do not feel 100% or for your own personal feelings, thank you.

I don't see clients during that time because I know most don't like it. However, there are some who don't mind. Like you said, women can be very horny at that time of the month! And some guys like to take advantage of it....

 

[Zaibetter]

Hepatitis is another risk with this.

Another situation I'm wary of is when a woman has spotting after DATY/digits and says it's because she just finished her period. Obviously this is often true, but spotting after stimulation is also one of the most common signs of chlamydia. Something to be aware of.

I got myself a hepatitis vaccine. By spotting you mean droplets of blood ? (that would be hard to see after daty or digits) Or more bleeding?

 

[IM469]

I don't see clients during that time because I know most don't like it. However, there are some who don't mind. Like you said, women can be very horny at that time of the month! And some guys like to take advantage of it....

Thank you. If I have DATY during or very close to - even after a douche - I'll have a reaction. No idea why but I get this weird fuzzy taste I my mouth afterwards even if wasn't aware of it at the time.

 

[captnkirk]

I don't see clients during that time because I know most don't like it. However, there are some who don't mind. Like you said, women can be very horny at that time of the month! And some guys like to take advantage of it....

I'm am now thinking that perhaps I was fooled all along....maybe most of those sponges I have felt were NOT for birth control. Perhaps those like you, who take the week off, are the exceptions. The rest of the ladies are sponging, regardless of the risk, so as not to take the hit of a week's lost income.

Again, I think that the better thing to do if you dont want to take the week off is to be upfront, decline DATY and only offer other services, perhaps even at a reduce rate. It's like the Big Mac rule...reduce the revenue on the main course but in the long run you make more on the volume sold of fries and cola.