union pearson express train...$27.50???

I love the tunnel. Too bad that tunnel doesn't enable one to access the rest of the Islands. So, we are stuck on a crowded hot ferry.
Geez, if you don't want the pleasures of a boat trip, why go to an island at all? If anything is hot and crowded, it's the Terminal; never the ferries.
 
Geez, if you don't want the pleasures of a boat trip, why go to an island at all?
Our boss takes us to the Islands in his yacht once (twice, if we are lucky) a year. That is a boat trip. Waiting in a long lineup in a "cattle pen", especially on the return trip when you are already tired and the kids are screaming and the elders are forced to stand is not a pleasure.

Unlike Mayor David "Bridge Killer" Miller, I believe in building bridges (or sometimes walls). Mayor Miller will forever be remembered for killing the bridge and the garbage strike.
 
That's because of the NIMBYs on the island. That's the story of Toronto at all levels of government. Caving in to a few despite the greater good of the city. Look at the Allen as the prime example.
How the hell did it stop at Eglinton and not go all the way downtown??

Our boss takes us to the Islands in his yacht once (twice, if we are lucky) a year. That is a boat trip. Waiting in a long lineup in a "cattle pen", especially on the return trip when you are already tired and the kids are screaming and the elders are forced to stand is not a pleasure.

Unlike Mayor David "Bridge Killer" Miller, I believe in building bridges (or sometimes walls). Mayor Miller will forever be remembered for killing the bridge and the garbage strike.
 
That's because of the NIMBYs on the island. That's the story of Toronto at all levels of government. Caving in to a few despite the greater good of the city. Look at the Allen as the prime example.
How the hell did it stop at Eglinton and not go all the way downtown??

How about "No Jets" for Billy Bishop Airport?

How do we ever get anything done in this country? Now, Quebec wants to kill the Pipeline East project so they can continue to buy oil from Saudi Arabia and Nigeria instead of Alberta.
 
Voodoo economics. Heard on the radio this morning that the UPX revenue has doubled since they lowered the fare a bit. Amazing isn't it? Lowering the price to generate more revenue.
 
Voodoo economics. Heard on the radio this morning that the UPX revenue has doubled since they lowered the fare a bit. Amazing isn't it? Lowering the price to generate more revenue.

It is the ridership that has doubled, since they cut fares in half. So, revenue would be about the same. Might as well merge the service with TTC so that the general population who paid for the service through their taxes can make use of the service.
Ridership on UP Express has more than doubled since fares were slashed

Amazing how skilled these politicians are at pissing away money. No consequences, no remorse.
Metrolinx spent thousands on UP Express uniforms, Fashion Week spot
 
I took the UP express from Weston last night to the hockey game. 4 minutes from the station, free parking, and 13 minutes to Union station. Chit chat with the pretty train attendant. All in for 5.60 each way. Loved it!!!!!!! Would have either paid 20 bucks minimum for parking and 40 minutes stop and go in traffic, or 10-15 min drive to subway and 40 mins on the subway.
 
I took the UP express from Weston last night to the hockey game. 4 minutes from the station, free parking, and 13 minutes to Union station. Chit chat with the pretty train attendant. All in for 5.60 each way. Loved it!!!!!!! Would have either paid 20 bucks minimum for parking and 40 minutes stop and go in traffic, or 10-15 min drive to subway and 40 mins on the subway.

Service sounds great, but got to question how they can justify pretty trained attendants for a 13 minute train ride.
 
It is the ridership that has doubled, since they cut fares in half. So, revenue would be about the same. Might as well merge the service with TTC so that the general population who paid for the service through their taxes can make use of the service.
Ridership on UP Express has more than doubled since fares were slashed

Amazing how skilled these politicians are at pissing away money. No consequences, no remorse.
Metrolinx spent thousands on UP Express uniforms, Fashion Week spot

Success in the eyes of the government. Not losing quite as much money. :rolleyes:
 
I took the UP express from Weston last night to the hockey game. 4 minutes from the station, free parking, and 13 minutes to Union station. Chit chat with the pretty train attendant. All in for 5.60 each way. Loved it!!!!!!! Would have either paid 20 bucks minimum for parking and 40 minutes stop and go in traffic, or 10-15 min drive to subway and 40 mins on the subway.


I'm going to the hockey game tomorrow night but will drive since I'm not coming from home, but I don't live that far from the Weston station. You can park there no? Not a great area but I would imagine your car is relatively safe in their lot. I'm glad you posted this because I just got that notice in the mail about UP Express. I should try it some time.

Doesn't it stop at Eglinton too? (I recall seeing construction west of Caledonia on Eglinton and that it was for Metro-Linx).
 
I'm going to the hockey game tomorrow night but will drive since I'm not coming from home, but I don't live that far from the Weston station. You can park there no? Not a great area but I would imagine your car is relatively safe in their lot. I'm glad you posted this because I just got that notice in the mail about UP Express. I should try it some time.

Doesn't it stop at Eglinton too? (I recall seeing construction west of Caledonia on Eglinton and that it was for Metro-Linx).
. From Weston it stops at Bloor and Jane, then Union. Parking is free.They just expanded the lot too.
 
The original fee structure was doomed from the start for many reasons:

They priced it high assuming business people will want to save a few bucks than taking a taxi
- Business people often expense their transportation fees. So most busy business people will just get a cab and pay for a $50 cab ride and charge it to their corporate card. No business is going to force a business traveler to use TTC or UPX. A taxi is always ok
- Taking a direct UPX from the airport to downtown seems fast, but what happens when you get to Union? Who says the persons hotel or office is walking distance from there? Maybe the person is carrying lots of gear anyway. If it's not an easy walk, the person has to get a taxi from there or take a subway ride to their location. A direct taxi is easier as a cab will drop you off right at the location and help lug your baggage in the trunk
- A cab ride may run into traffic, but it''ll eventually get you there. How many times have you taken a cab and it breaks down or gets a big delay? Not too often (if ever). Taking the TTC subway (or in this case UPX), how often are delays? It happens. And I bet it will happen for UPX too. I use to take the subway everyday to go downtown..... the old Bloor line then transfer to the Yonge line. Every week there was at least one time the train car just comes to a complete stop for no reason.... and everyone stands there for 5-10 minutes. And then every once in a while, everyone has to get out, wait, and then get on a following train??? And then a couple times, everyone has to literally get out (of the entire station) because something major happened. No business person wants that hassle
- Even for business people trying to save ther company a few bucks, it's not even a cost savings anyway if the group has 2 people or more. Let's say it's a team of 3-4 people travelling together. It's easier just to go and share a cab fare

The right thing to do was to focus it as a regular rider first service. And make it reasonably priced
- Yeah I know, there's only a handful of stops, but it does hit heavy populated areas
- Nobody like paying for airport parking. But for those people who want to save a buck and take either public transit or a taxi, a taxi is more reliable. I would never rely on taking public transit to get to the airport to make a flight
- And for the ride back home, there's public transit or a taxi. Again, at such high prices to start, an individual person might be too tired and just hail a cab which drops them off at their door. Who wants to wait for UPX, take them to a station and then the traveler has to get home from there
 
It takes about 10 minutes to get through checkin and security, Pearson can take an hour.
Same for baggage, should you check it in, much faster.

But Pearson is right off the highway
Bishop is a major pain in the ass to even get to

Oh & Pearson check in is alot quicker if you join the program