U.S. Senate vote to strike down Trump Tariffs - before they spend millions/billions to rule it illegal under WTO rules and USMCA Trade Agreement rules
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Butler is correct that the House needs to move on it (and arranged earlier in the year that they have no obligation to do ever bring it to a vote).
This is also just the Canadian tariffs, not the ones Trump announced Thursday.
This is also just the Canadian tariffs, not the ones Trump announced Thursday.
I don't quite understand how the House can avoid voting on the tariffs.
And even if they've passed a bill to that effect, surely Fed Court is going to say that the House has corruptly colluded with the admin to block debate on tariffs which would appear to be grossly outside the constitutional power of the PotUS to enact?
I foresee judges striking these tariffs down.
It’s still early, just 10 weeks into Trump’s presidency and already, mass protests have erupted across the country and around the world. As gas, food, and housing prices climb and jobs begin to disappear, the situation threatens to spiral beyond Trump’s control.
Blanket tariffs have been imposed on numerous countries, disrupting trade and triggering economic uncertainty. Many everyday products imported from China are items Americans cannot, will not, or simply do not want to produce domestically. As a result, prices at dollar stores and for other low-cost goods will rise sharply. As will other imported items, many without an equivalent American made product.
High-value goods may eventually be manufactured in the U.S., but that shift would take years. When it happens, companies are likely to rely heavily on automation to reduce labor costs. Even then, businesses may hesitate to invest, knowing that a future administration could undo Trump’s policies, making the entire effort risky and potentially short-lived.
Blanket tariffs have been imposed on numerous countries, disrupting trade and triggering economic uncertainty. Many everyday products imported from China are items Americans cannot, will not, or simply do not want to produce domestically. As a result, prices at dollar stores and for other low-cost goods will rise sharply. As will other imported items, many without an equivalent American made product.
High-value goods may eventually be manufactured in the U.S., but that shift would take years. When it happens, companies are likely to rely heavily on automation to reduce labor costs. Even then, businesses may hesitate to invest, knowing that a future administration could undo Trump’s policies, making the entire effort risky and potentially short-lived.
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The Emergency Act Trump is using has a time limit to vote on a resolution if it is brought before it. (basically 18 days)
The House earlier voted that the entire session of congress counts as one day only, so the time limit to vote will never be reached by this Congress.
(Yes, they did that specifically to avoid having to vote on the emergency declaration)
Public pressure might still make them vote, but legally they never have to.
Why?
The House is allowed to set its rules about addressing laws.
It set a rule.
Not under that argument.
Because it just corruptly connived at passing a power constitutionally abrogated to Congress to the administration. It basically made the Constitution meaningless.
If Congress can do this, then it can simply pass all its powers to the president one day and fuck having anything called a legislature, because the president just became a dictator. In fact, it may just have done this.
You think any judge isn't going to be livid about the constitution being so blatantly fucked with!? Because "the entire session of congress counts as one day only"?!?!?!?!?
No judge is going to accept that level of moron, corrupt bullshit re the Constitution.
Not how the Supreme Court thinks about things, sadly.
And also not really even true.
Congress has every right to delegate its power to the President.
In fact, the Supreme Court (long ago) voted to say that it doesn't have the right to put in a "legislative veto" to specifically put a block on a power it has delegated to the President.
(I think that was a stupid decision, but it is what it is.)
You've noticed that, have you?
No.You think any judge isn't going to be livid about the constitution being so blatantly fucked with!? Because "the entire session of congress counts as one day only"?!?!?!?!?
There will be some judges who are livid, but so what?
Of course they will.
Lots of them will.
Shouldn't the questions now be who is funding Thomas and the other judges and how much they've lost this week?
I don't think the people funding Thomas give him orders.
They reward him for what he is already doing.
That's rather naive.
You really don't think there is any communication or desires known before upcoming cases?
Of course there is.
He's wildly corrupt.
But it isn't a case of them showing up with a sack of money and saying "do this".
It is a case of "we will keep shoveling money at you because you vote the way we want".
