U.K. Supreme Court issues key ruling on definition of "woman" under existing equality law

[richaceg]

U.K. Supreme Court issues key ruling on definition of "woman" under existing equality law

The U.K. Supreme Court has ruled the country's 2010 Equality Act defines a woman as someone born biologically female in a potential landmark case for transgender rights.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[canada-man]

Bumpy

 

[Adamxx]

From my understanding, the ruling did not change the rights of or existence of Trans people, regarding their equality compared to others.

With most laws, language is very important, and as time advances, labels that were attached have to be clarified and or modified.

Example, Pluto a planet or not, or when new variations of species are confirmed.

The ruling still recognizes Trans’ rights, and clarified the “label” of woman due to conflicts that arise in certain legal contexts because of it’s original “meaning”.

As folks who are familiar with the language in the courts and legal system, laws and languages are continuously being revised based on context and new information to adapt to changes in our various societies.

 

[Adamxx]

An example is the word ‘woke’ which you use differently today.

 

[richaceg]

From my understanding, the ruling did not change the rights of or existence of Trans people, regarding their equality compared to others.

With most laws, language is very important, and as time advances, labels that were attached have to be clarified and or modified.

Example, Pluto a planet or not, or when new variations of species are confirmed.

The ruling still recognizes Trans’ rights, and clarified the “label” of woman due to conflicts that arise in certain legal contexts because of it’s original “meaning”.

As folks who are familiar with the language in the courts and legal system, laws and languages are continuously being revised based on context and new information to adapt to changes in our various societies.

It just means, they won't be recognized as women but as "trans-woman". there is a difference. there will no longer be a "i'm offended because yo mis gendered me" claim...

 

[Frankfooter]

It just means, they won't be recognized as women but as "trans-woman". there is a difference. there will no longer be a "i'm offended because yo mis gendered me" claim...

Would you really call someone a 'trans-woman' to their face?

 

[The Oracle]

It just means, they won't be recognized as women but as "trans-woman". there is a difference. there will no longer be a "i'm offended because yo mis gendered me" claim...

Crazy that this has to go to the Supreme Court at all. But a step in the right direction.

On a related topic.

Why Western Europe is rolling back access to puberty blockers

Several countries have restricted the use of puberty blockers, citing insufficient evidence on their benefits for gender-questioning youth and potential long-term effects.

www.euronews.com

 

[richaceg]

Would you really call someone a 'trans-woman' to their face?

What would you call them then?

 

[PeteOsborne]

Would you really call someone a 'trans-woman' to their face?

Now I am confused.
Is a trans woman a woman who is changing into a male appearance or is it a male turning female?
Is the latter a trans man?
I do know some of the "ladyboys " in Thailand are really good looking.

 

[Frankfooter]

What would you call them then?

I call them by their name and preferred pronoun.
I work with trans people fairly regularly and would happily defend them from asswipes attacking them.

 

[richaceg]

I call them by their name and preferred pronoun.
I work with trans people fairly regularly and would happily defend them from asswipes attacking them.

Calling them Trans women are not an attack...calling them women is giving them false hopes.. you're hurting them, not helping them.

 

[Frankfooter]

Calling them Trans women are not an attack...calling them women is giving them false hopes.. you're hurting them, not helping them.

False hope of what, that you'd sleep with them?

It costs nothing to not be an asshole.

 

[JuanGoodman]

It costs nothing to not be an asshole.

but it takes courage to be a real friend

and sometimes say things that they do not want to hear

for their own good

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

You refer to them as a man or a woman, respecting how they identify themselves. Most know from a very young age that their developing body does not match their true gender.

In the womb, we are all female. I once led a workshop at a swing convention where I was a speaker getting folks to get naked and discussing this long ago I suggested men or their partners look at the back of their penis. See that line. That would be their vaginal opening if they developed female.

This was also back in the days when we did lab chem testing of female ejaculation, which proved it was not pee.

In my view, the term woke is simply a jerk with a silly political view vs facts and the law. It seems those that us it are about "alternative facts" i.e. lies.they make up but if you say something enough times with millions of followers it seems to be true. Especially if your goal is that of a dictator.

 

[Frankfooter]

but it takes courage to be a real friend

and sometimes say things that they do not want to hear

for their own good

I'm sure you'r the type of friend who goes up to a colleague and says 'you know, you're fat and ugly' as something you think is helpful.

 

[JuanGoodman]

I'm sure you'r the type of friend who goes up to a colleague and says 'you know, you're fat and ugly' as something you think is helpful.

you really make me wander if you twist what people say on purpose or do you really have no clue?

I would never tell anybody that they are "fat and ugly", only liberals stoop that low

but if my male friend put on a dress and pretended to be a woman

I would definitely say something

 

[richaceg]

False hope of what, that you'd sleep with them?

It costs nothing to not be an asshole.

You are actually being an asshole for doing that...

 

[Frankfooter]

you really make me wander if you twist what people say on purpose or do you really have no clue?

I would never tell anybody that they are "fat and ugly", only liberals stoop that low

but if my male friend put on a dress and pretended to be a woman

I would definitely say something

Its the same thing.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are actually being an asshole for doing that...

No, you're an asshole if you can't manage decency.
It costs you nothing to use pronouns and treat trans people ok.

The trans I work with have to deal with assholes all the time, quite often they are dangerous.

 

[richaceg]

No, you're an asshole if you can't manage decency.
It costs you nothing to use pronouns and treat trans people ok.

The trans I work with have to deal with assholes all the time, quite often they are dangerous.

Bullshit...whatbyoure doing is dangerous to the trans community. Listen to yourself... you still call them Trans behind their backs. Lol.