Tsarnaev family received 100g in Govt benefits

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The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today.

The state has handed over more than 500 documents to the 11-member House Post Audit and Oversight Committee, which today met for the first time and plans to call in officials from the Department of Transitional Assistance to testify....................
 
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Over how many years?
How much support does a family on social support get in the US?
 
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Hey that was only $10,000 a year and until they got caught blowing people up, they were apparently model citizens. There are some questions to answer and some changes coming but this a blip.
 
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Just another example of twisting the ideas of freedom and tolerance into entitlement.
Treat these people nice they still blow you up.
 
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George The Curious said:
Just another example of twisting the ideas of freedom and tolerance into entitlement.
Treat these people nice they still blow you up.
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So the people who were treated nice and didn't blow things up aren't to be supported.

This is simply a case of one bad family slipped into the system, not the system is bad. I guess it's work camps for all immigrants to start to weed out the baddies.
 
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blackrock13 said:
Hey that was only $10,000 a year and until they got caught blowing people up, they were apparently model citizens. There are some questions to answer and some changes coming but this a blip.
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Sometimes it is the small points which stick in ones craw the most. They were on Welfare (normal immigrants are barred from welfare, and if for instance your ex-wife goes on welfare you are liable for complete repayment), they then went on to murder and maim scores of Americans. So in other words the People of the United States supported these terrorists in several ways from admitting them as refugees (although note both mom and dad are now living in Russia and Tamerlane Tsarnaev as we all know was there for six months in 2012 to then having them on the welfare rolls.
 
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Aardvark154 said:
Sometimes it is the small points which stick in ones craw the most. They were on Welfare (normal immigrants are barred from welfare, and if for instance your ex-wife goes on welfare you are liable for complete repayment), they then went on to murder and maim scores of Americans. So in other words the People of the United States supported these terrorists in several ways from admitting them as refugees (although note both mom and dad are now living in Russia and Tamerlane Tsarnaev as we all know was there for six months in 2012 to then having them on the welfare rolls.
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Is is nice to have someone, who is familiar with the minutia of the US system, to fill in the blanks. The facts of the parents are now no longer in the US and the 'refugee' son made a trip back home soon after arriving, are indication the the system needs tweaking. There are many similar stories in Canada and i suspect in most western countries.

As reported earlier, there's more trouble in the US with domestic terrorist than 'furriners'. I've heard the numbers 55% or 65%, but won't do the math to back it up. A source offered up earlier, listed every single on of the hundreds, possibly a couple of thousand, of attacks perpetrated.
 
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blackrock13 said:
So the people who were treated nice and didn't blow things up aren't to be supported.

This is simply a case of one bad family slipped into the system, not the system is bad. I guess it's work camps for all immigrants to start to weed out the baddies.
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I have no problem with new immigrants. Most new immigrants are more productive than the locals that's why we let them come here in the first place. As someone pointed out immigrants can't even get welfare.

what I was trying to say is you would expect someone to act good since they are receiving kindness of social assistence. But in reality they don't, in this case and many others. In particular with home grown bums and deuggies. I've seen so many irresponsible single mothers on drugs continue their ways and use the welfare money to buy more drugs. Clearly the system based on tolerance and freedom for repeat offenders aren't working.
 
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blackrock13 said:
Tons, 10,000 ways, really? Most are just variations of a short list
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The real money in Immigration Law is in assisting businesses with getting a certain foreign worker or group of foreign workers into the country. It is not with helping refugees (who after all have large social service organizations [such as Catholic Relief Services] who are cheerleaders for them), nor is it with helping Sam and Margaret get their spouse or financé(e) Ekatherina and Guangli into the country (although doubtless that is the most fun).
 
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I'm not sure I see the value for money here.....

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Aardvark154 said:
The real money in Immigration Law is in assisting businesses with getting a certain foreign worker or group of foreign workers into the country.
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Yes, the fringe benefit of coercing immigrant women to provide sexual favours. "Immigrant consultants" are the lowest life form on the face of the planet.
 
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Yes, the fringe benefit of coercing immigrant women to provide sexual favours. "Immigrant consultants" are the lowest life form on the face of the planet.
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how a "consultant" who helps people to move from shitty environment to better environment is the lowest life form on the face of the planet?
 
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4 people, 100,000, 10 years. That's $2,500 per person per year. Doesn't seem that big.

And of that money, how much ended up back in the economy or the tax base?
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What did we get for that 100k?

Much of it went back into the economy but all of it came OUT of the economy.

Again, talk to me about value for money.

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By the way this $100,000 does not include housing subsidies, that probably makes it at least $200,000, nor any purely federal aid programs that they might have received payments from.
 
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afterhours said:
how a "consultant" who helps people to move from shitty environment to better environment is the lowest life form on the face of the planet?
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Many (most?) of these "consultants" exploit their own ethnic group and/or sexually harass/assault women in that group.
 
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