Truth about Islam from an ex-muslim lady (Wafa Sultan) EXPOSED!

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I am pretty sure most of the the soldiers beheaded in Iraq were not muslim.......Just a thought.
 

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Muslims try to silence, kill, intimidate, insult, discredit ANYONE who dares question their beliefs.

That should tell you all you ever need to know about Islam. Any belief system should be able to stand up to criticism or else what good is it?

It's not suprising that Wafa Sultan and other brave people are in the cross hairs of Muslims everywhere. This ex-muslim female has a deep understanding on Islam.

More on this great lady.

Interview Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7SD4UCTb-E

Interview Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWEwJYVu11M

Her interview with Al-Jazeera Pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE-ejGWTUMY

Pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOp_9xQ3gak
 

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Wafa Sultan isnt a Muslim, she is an Alawite, an off shoot sect of Shia Islam that says Ali and not Muhammed is the true prophet of God, they make up 15% of Syria's population and have ruled under the brutal Assad regime for over 3 decades, so they have a consider bone to pick with the Sunni majority.

Next time consider the source of anything that is being said about any group.
 

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scouser1 said:
Next time consider the source of anything that is being said about any group.
Wise words that too many here don't heed. Cinelli et al, are you listening?
 

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dcbogey said:
Wise words that too many here don't heed. Cinelli et al, are you listening?
not just that but the sheer laziness of not thinking or doing research before making a comment about ex Muslim woman comes out on Islam, she was never a Muslim to begin with her opinions being right or wrong is another topic. And non Muslims being beheaded in greater numbers in Iraq than Muslims, ahhh I bet you more Muslims have been killed in sectarian reprisal beheadings than any other non Muslim or foreigner.
 

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Another distortion of the facts!!!

scouser1 said:
Wafa Sultan isnt a Muslim, she is an Alawite, an off shoot sect of Shia Islam that says Ali and not Muhammed is the true prophet of God, they make up 15% of Syria's population and have ruled under the brutal Assad regime for over 3 decades, so they have a consider bone to pick with the Sunni majority.

Next time consider the source of anything that is being said about any group.
You need to check your sources and be more accurate about presenting the facts on Alawites. Check this link for an accurate account on Alawite!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawite

In short, Alawites are a sect of Shiite Islam, and regard Ali as successor of Muhammad, and not a replacement of the prophet of Moslems, just like all Shiites do. History tells us what happened after the death of the "prophet". The Moslem caliphate succession was hijacked by Abu baker, Omar, and Othman respectively. Ali was the last of the four caliphates, when he should have been the first, according to alawites and Shiites.

Maybe you consider all Shiite not Moslems!!!!

Or, maybe you have missed all the images of Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, an alawite, praying side by the mufti of Syria in the al amawi mosque!!!
 

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wadsab said:
You need to check your sources and be more accurate about presenting the facts on Alawites. Check this link for an accurate account on Alawite!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawite

In short, Alawites are a sect of Shiite Islam, and regard Ali as successor of Muhammad, and not a replacement of the prophet of Moslems, just like all Shiites do. History tells us what happened after the death of the "prophet". The Moslem caliphate succession was hijacked by Abu baker, Omar, and Othman respectively. Ali was the last of the four caliphates, when he should have been the first, according to alawites and Shiites.

Maybe you consider all Shiite not Moslems!!!!

Or, maybe you have missed all the images of Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, an alawite, praying side by the mufti of Syria in the al amawi mosque!!!

Alawites are considered about as Muslim as the Jews for Jesus crowd is considered Jewish by mainstream Jews, they hold beliefs and celebrate holidays that are a mix of Christianity and Islam, and actually regard Ali as a reincarnation of God the Shiites you talk about are the Twelvers sect like in Iran,Iraq, Lebanon who are very close to Sunni Islam the only major sticking point is the who got to succeed Islam.

Bashar like his father is desperate to hold on to power his group is only 15% ruling a country that is around 75% Sunni Muslim, daddy Hafez even went and got a certificate from a Sunni imam proclaiming him a Muslim, well that guy had two options issue the certificate or spend the next years of your life in a 4 by 6 meter cell with lots of torture in between.
 

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scouser1 said:
Wafa Sultan isnt a Muslim, she is an Alawite, an off shoot sect of Shia Islam that says Ali and not Muhammed is the true prophet of God, they make up 15% of Syria's population and have ruled under the brutal Assad regime for over 3 decades, so they have a consider bone to pick with the Sunni majority.

Next time consider the source of anything that is being said about any group.
Sounds like the no true Scotsman arguement. Basically you're logic is that she's not a REAL ex-Muslim so her opinion doesn't count.
 

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Cinema Face said:
Sounds like the no true Scotsman arguement. Basically you're logic is that she's not a REAL ex-Muslim so her opinion doesn't count.
of course her opinion is valid just like anyone else' thats why I am a big fan of democracy, unfortunately she is a member of a group that is the ruling minority in a country with a brutal dictatorship, this is like asking a member of South Africa's apartheid government so what do you think of blacks?
 

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And non Muslims being beheaded in greater numbers in Iraq than Muslims
I certainly hope you aren't minimizing what has been perpetrated upon the Christian minority in Iraq by the pure and holy Moslem majority.
 
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