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Trump threatens additional tariffs on China, opens negotiations with other countries

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President Trump threatened additional tariffs on China and markets bounced around amid the new US tariff policy that is set to fully roll out on Wednesday.

Trump posted that "if China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long term trading abuses by tomorrow, April 8th, 2025, the United States will impose ADDITIONAL Tariffs on China of 50%, effective April 9th. Additionally, all talks with China concerning their requested meetings with us will be terminated! Negotiations with other countries, which have also requested meetings, will begin taking place immediately."

Those negotiations with other countries have apparently begun. Speaking at the White House on Monday afternoon, Trump said: "We're going to get fair deals and good deals with every country, and if we don't then we're going to have nothing to do with them."

On Sunday, Trump reiterated that the impetus behind the tariff policy is trade deficits: "I spoke to a lot of leaders ... from all over the world. ... I said 'we're not going to have deficits with your country' ... to me a deficit is a loss. We're going to have surpluses or, at worst, we're going to be breaking even."

On April 2, Trump announced a blanket 10% tariff on all goods coming into the US. He also added new duties on goods from 185 countries, which the president described as the "worst offenders" in terms of perceived unfairness in trade, slated to kick in on April 9.

American customs officials began collecting the new 10% tariff on imports from many countries on Saturday morning after the US stock market saw its worst week since 2020.

Various countries are still deciding how to respond (or not), and companies have begun adjusting to the new reality — largely by raising prices. Some countries responded with new tariffs of their own: Canada announced new duties on certain vehicles imported from the US, and China announced that it would impose countermeasures against the US starting April 10, including a 34% tariff on US goods.

The European Union is preparing an initial set of countermeasures. The tariff rate applied to the 27-nation bloc of EU countries under the policy is 20%, and about 70% of the EU's exports to the US are covered. Trump adviser and Tesla CEO Elon Musk, appearing at an event on Saturday, said that "Europe and the United States should move, ideally, in my view, to a zero-tariff situation."

"This is the single biggest trade action of our lifetime," Kelly Ann Shaw, a trade lawyer and former White House trade adviser during Trump's first term, told Reuters.

 

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Pull out the popcorn for this one. Trump is threatening 50% tariff unless the Chinese pull their 35% . I don't know if its true that the Chinese have fucked the US on tariffs for years. But this is a big showdown.
 
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Pull out the popcorn for this one. Trump is threatening 50% tariff unless the Chinese pull their 35% . I don't know if its true that the Chinese have fucked the US on tariffs for years. But this is a big showdown.
The chinese economy is in shambles. I doubt Xi backs down as he is shown over and over again that he is willing to sacrifice exonomic growth for political power. Backing down would be a huge loss of face for him and there are reports that some of his military leaders are just waiting for an opening to seize control.
 

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The American economy is in shambles. I doubt Trump backs down as he is shown over and over again that he is willing to sacrifice exonomic growth for political power. Backing down would be a huge loss of face for him and there are reports that some of his military leaders are just waiting for an opening to seize control.
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The chinese economy is in shambles. I doubt Xi backs down as he is shown over and over again that he is willing to sacrifice exonomic growth for political power. Backing down would be a huge loss of face for him and there are reports that some of his military leaders are just waiting for an opening to seize control.
I don't know if china's economy is in shambles. They're the second biggest economy in the world. Backing down is going to be a big loss of face for either, thus the big showdown.
 

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Last time i checked the U.S. doesnt have 20%+ youth unemployment numbers. Nor does it have 600M in poverty. Consumer confidence in China is staggering low. Their debt to GDP is growing. The demographic decline will lead to 2 workers to every retiree by 2030. The cracks in China are becoming more and more visible.

When you gotta disappear economists or premiers that question the CCP data that is being put out, you know something is very seriously wrong.
 
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Last time i checked the U.S. doesnt have 20%+ youth unemployment numbers. Nor does it have 600M in poverty. Consumer confidence in China is staggering low. Their debt to GDP is growing. The demographic decline will lead to 2 workers to every retiree by 2030. The cracks in China are becoming more and more visible.

When you gotta disappear economists or premiers that question the CCP data that is being put out, you know something is very seriously wrong.
11.5% poverty level in the US isnt too good. so 115 people out of 1000 in the US is living in poverty. Is that acceptable to you for a supposed 1st world nation ?
 
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11.5% poverty level in the US isnt too good. so 115 people out of 1000 in the US is living in poverty. Is that acceptable to you for a supposed 1st world nation ?
So almost half of a 1.4B population living on $4.5/day or less is more acceptable to you? Lol
 

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Last time i checked the U.S. doesnt have 20%+ youth unemployment numbers. Nor does it have 600M in poverty. Consumer confidence in China is staggering low. Their debt to GDP is growing. The demographic decline will lead to 2 workers to every retiree by 2030. The cracks in China are becoming more and more visible.

When you gotta disappear economists or premiers that question the CCP data that is being put out, you know something is very seriously wrong.
Point taken.

But Xi doesn't have to worry about the 2026 midterms.
 

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Point taken.

But Xi doesn't have to worry about the 2026 midterms.
Xi wont need to worry about midterms but there are several reports of some fissures within his military leadership. A lot of purges within his top generals who were Xi loyalists.

Also seen some reports regarding dissatisfaction with the jiang xemin factions. Unfortunately, impossible to verify.
 

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Xi wont need to worry about midterms but there are several reports of some fissures within his military leadership. A lot of purges within his top generals who were Xi loyalists.

Also seen some reports regarding dissatisfaction with the jiang xemin factions. Unfortunately, impossible to verify.
Thanks. You know a lot of stuff I don't.
 

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Jiang Zemin and his gang are Xi Jinping's main rival. They tried to oust Xi Jinping and replace him with Bo Xilai but failed. Now Bo Xilai is now serving a life prison.

Jack Ma, Zhao Wei and Li Yundi were close to Jiang's gang and were checked mate.

Although Xi Jinping remains the president, there are still many of Jiang's people in powerful positions. That is why Xi Jinping dare not leave China.


 

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Jiang Zemin and his gang are Xi Jinping's main rival. They tried to oust Xi Jinping and replace him with Bo Xilai but failed. Now Bo Xilai is now serving a life prison.

Jack Ma, Zhao Wei and Li Yundi were close to Jiang's gang and were checked mate.

Although Xi Jinping remains the president, there are still many of Jiang's people in powerful positions. That is why Xi Jinping dare not leave China.


Apparently, Liu Tianran has gone missing. He is the son of Liu He, who was former vice premier of China, serving with Xi, Hu jingtao and also working closely with Le Keqiang (who famously questioned china's poverty alleviation.) There are a lot of moving parts in China right now. It will also be interesting to see what happens with Li Ka-Shing although he seems pretty insulated right now.

Yeah the Bo Xilai story is wild. If you have time, read or listen to some of Desmond Shums interviews.
 
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