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Tory MP Dominic Raab (UK): Feminists are obnoxious bigots and men have a raw deal

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A Tory MP has hit out at 'obnoxious bigotry' by feminists and insisted men are getting a 'raw deal' in many areas of life.

Dominic Raab waded into the equality row by saying that 'flagrant discrimination' against males was being ignored.

The backbencher's intervention came amid controversy over the cost of implementing the former Labour government's Equality Act.
In an article for the PoliticsHome website, Mr Raab said he was in favour of 'consistent equality' between the sexes.

But the Esher and Walton MP insisted: 'While we have some of the toughest anti-discrimination laws in the world, we are blind to some of the most flagrant discrimination - against men.

'From the cradle to the grave, men are getting a raw deal. Men work longer hours, die earlier, but retire later than women. That won't be fixed for another seven years.

'One reason women are left 'holding the baby' is anti-male discrimination in rights of maternity/paternity leave...
'Meanwhile, young boys are educationally disadvantaged compared to girls, and divorced or separated fathers are systematically ignored by the courts.'

Mr Raab - whose wife Erika works in marketing for a major IT firm - said there was also 'more subtle sexism'.

'Men caused the banking crisis. Men earn more because they are more assertive in pay negotiations,' he said. 'One FT (Financial Times) commentator recently complained that: 'High-flying women are programmed to go for high-flying men. Most men aren't attracted to women who are more successful than they are.'

'Can you imagine the outrage if such trite generalisations were made about women, or other minorities? Feminists are now amongst the most obnoxious bigots.'

Holding the baby: In an article for the PoliticsHome website, Mr Raab said he was in favour of 'consistent equality' between the sexes
The 37-year-old MP complained that it was 'almost taboo' for a man to question whether the 'rapidly dwindling' pay gap was down to discrimination, or 'genuine choice'.

'Britain's not perfect, and we will never eradicate all human prejudice,' Mr Raab went on. 'But, we have reached a stage where the differences between men and women in our society are less reflective of overt discrimination, and more their common challenge of trying to find the right way to earn a decent quality of life for their family, whilst sparing some time to enjoy it.

'That means taking a consistent approach to equality, ditching outdated gender warfare and finding practical solutions to the challenges couples go through together.'

Mr Raab added: 'You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in equality or you don't.'

Female MPs criticised Mr Raab, a former chief of staff to David Davis, the Conservative leadership candidate.

Harriet Harman, the former equalities minister, said: 'Women still earn 20 per cent less than men, domestic violence claims the lives of women every week and women bear the brunt of poverty in the developing world.'

Kate Green, chairman of the Women's Parliamentary Labour Party, said: 'The equality and diversity agenda put in place by Labour has been hugely important in levelling the playing field for millions of people in the workplace and we need to ensure we continue to build on its success.'

Nia Griffith, the shadow business minister, called on Mr Raab to 'get real and stop being so self-pitying'.

'The reality is that women with very good qualifications time and time again do not get the top jobs and opportunities,' she said.

The MP suggested that it was now 'almost taboo' for a man to question whether the 'rapidly dwindling' pay gap was down to discrimination, or 'genuine choice'.
'Britain's not perfect, and we will never eradicate all human prejudice,' he went on. 'But we have reached a stage where the differences between men and women in our society are less reflective of overt discrimination, and more their common challenge of trying to find the right way to earn a decent quality of life for their family, whilst sparing some time to enjoy it.

'That means taking a consistent approach to equality, ditching outdated gender warfare and finding practical solutions to the challenges couples go through together


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huh?

This is in Britain, not Canada? Thanks for not including that off the top..........who cares?
 

hinz

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LMAO. Shocking....not. :rolleyes:

Like everything else in life, it's inevitable sooner or later good policies/ideas will take a pervert turn, ie reverse the original intent of say feminism: giving the women equal opportunity to compete and succeed.

Can't blame men having a raw deal when the spirit of feminism evolve into a battle cry for some ambitious women to fight for equal representation on all jobs for the sake of it.

Simply put, when it comes to the mindset, those Feminists are no better than the misogynists they target all the time.
 

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This is in Britain, not Canada? Thanks for not including that off the top..........who cares?
Header adjusted to reflect UK origin.
 

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Well, a couple of things:

1. If women only made up 33% of the University population, they would have a Royal Commission to study the root causes of it and find and implement various solutions. (But because it's men, no-one cares).

2. I'm tired of male bashing in the media, television, movies, etc. where the males are protrayed as fools and the women as worldly, wise and correct.

3. I'm tired of events like "Take back the Night" and "Stop Violence against women" that paint all men as criminals and rapists. It's a very small percentage of the population and as far as that goes, men are far far more violent with other men than they are with women.
 

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Well, a couple of things:
Hmm, looks like there are 3 things.

1. If women only made up 33% of the University population, they would have a Royal Commission to study the root causes of it and find and implement various solutions. (But because it's men, no-one cares).
Like it's an "injustice" when women could not make 50%, while it's the men "100% fault" for not making up 50%.

2. I'm tired of male bashing in the media, television, movies, etc. where the males are protrayed as fools and the women as worldly, wise and correct.
That's predictable since unlike other types of "bashing", the risk of litigation and bad press is low when the target is male, single white or Asian male like those in frat in particular.

BTW, maybe that's my experience but I see plenty of women who are narrow minded, narcissistic, self center, dumb and the worst of all, quite many of those are looking hot. :rolleyes:

3. I'm tired of events like "Take back the Night" and "Stop Violence against women" that paint all men as criminals and rapists. It's a very small percentage of the population and as far as that goes, men are far far more violent with other men than they are with women.
LOL, like we're "surprised" the "creative minds" behind these events and commercials are majority female and bi/gay men.
 
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Well, a couple of things:

1. If women only made up 33% of the University population, they would have a Royal Commission to study the root causes of it and find and implement various solutions. (But because it's men, no-one cares).

2. I'm tired of male bashing in the media, television, movies, etc. where the males are protrayed as fools and the women as worldly, wise and correct.

3. I'm tired of events like "Take back the Night" and "Stop Violence against women" that paint all men as criminals and rapists. It's a very small percentage of the population and as far as that goes, men are far far more violent with other men than they are with women.
You make great points there.
 

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Well, a couple of things:

1. If women only made up 33% of the University population, they would have a Royal Commission to study the root causes of it and find and implement various solutions. (But because it's men, no-one cares).

2. I'm tired of male bashing in the media, television, movies, etc. where the males are protrayed as fools and the women as worldly, wise and correct.

3. I'm tired of events like "Take back the Night" and "Stop Violence against women" that paint all men as criminals and rapists. It's a very small percentage of the population and as far as that goes, men are far far more violent with other men than they are with women.
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Well said, thank you sir.
 
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