Looks like this will go on for a while with the charge before them. The labour board will have a hearing and see what they wanted to change or pull off the table after it was agreed upon.
TORONTO SCHOOL BOARD - charged with bargining in bad faith
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Is this the typical deal where the Union charges bargaining in bad faith as a publicity move and it goes before the Ministry of Labour and you never hear about it again ?
Sid's having a hell of a year isn't he ? Edit : I guess you're right CUPE is just universities.
Sid's having a hell of a year isn't he ? Edit : I guess you're right CUPE is just universities.
I don't believe this has anything to do with SID!!! more like OSSTF, well the government still has 3% a year for 4 years = 12% I'd take it and run man.
Interesting that on the news this morning they talk of approx 130,000 jobs lost in canada during January.
I'll bet that not one of them was from the inflated , bloated sluggo feather bed known as the drivel service. Fark'em all.
Time to go a' huntin
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I'll bet that not one of them was from the inflated , bloated sluggo feather bed known as the drivel service. Fark'em all.
Time to go a' huntin
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Well we had public jobs lost during the Harris government look where it got us
less nurses
less doctors
less hospitals
less water inspectors - walkerton
less maet inspections
less policemen
ect
to mention a few
I say lets reduce the # of seats at Queens Park to 1/3 of what we have now I'd also do the same at the federal level and get rid of the Senate.
less nurses
less doctors
less hospitals
less water inspectors - walkerton
less maet inspections
less policemen
ect
to mention a few
I say lets reduce the # of seats at Queens Park to 1/3 of what we have now I'd also do the same at the federal level and get rid of the Senate.
I think some clarification is necessary. These are not "charges" in a legal sense, but rather complaints from a union that is not happy with how negotiations are going. This is not an uncommon tactic by unions to claim the employer is bargaining in bad faith, but it rarely goes anywhere.buckwheat1 said:
Yes I understand they aren't in the leagl sense it's just used to get talks moving. I find this one interesting in that the union hasn't said anything publically yet, teh board has spoken about 8 minutes of supervision I believe there's more then that.
You're right we should keep most of them and just pay them lessbuckwheat1 said:
I think a wage roll-back would be appropriate since there was deflation (negative inflation) in the last quarter. Shouldn't the COLA clauses in the contracts automatically kick out a decrease. Seems fair to me.You do know that Doctors aren't unionized civil servants don't you ? I think meat inspectors are Federal so any complaints about the late '90's should go to Johnny Crouton.
doctors aren't unionized, however if a doctor wants hospital rights then out comes the hospital money which is controlled by government. Meat inspectors are unionizeed, there are ones under the Province of Ontario which belong to OPSEU I remember they closed a plant by me when they were on strike. There are also federal meat inspectors that look after the big plants.
NOT ALL public employees are overpaid, I'd like to hear a doller amount to being overpaid and with that teh lenght of service to get to that amount.
NOT ALL public employees are overpaid, I'd like to hear a doller amount to being overpaid and with that teh lenght of service to get to that amount.
I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with this what-so-ever! While we are at it we should also do something about their ridiculously generous pensions as well!buckwheat1 said:
(Good luck in getting ANY of that implemented though... unfortunately this is nothing more than a pipe dream!)
Well if your talking teachers they pay 12% of their salary into the, if you'd put 12% of your gross pay into a plan starting say @ 23 years old how much would you have?
buckwheat1 said:
Do you have a credible source for that claim? If so please cite.
If not then STFU.
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The doctors and nursers were axed during the Rea years his studies showed that we would not need as many and they could cut costs by cutting the university spaces available to medical studentsbuckwheat1 said:
Water Inspectors not so much, walkerton was a result of a civic employee falsifing records and documents because the two of them could not be bothered to do their job.
The number of police in the province is much higher .
I assume you mean meat inspectors, the Harris govt had nothing to do with any meat inspection problems especially since they happened 10 years after they left power.
Actually...
I thought that was pretty much self explanatory.
NO- I was ONLY referring to the MP's and MPP's in this post.... (which is why I isolated THAT portion of the post and deleted the rest!)buckwheat1 said:
I thought that was pretty much self explanatory.
I didn't say we had problems with meat inspectors I just said they were cut.
As for walkerton I have read the report and I know the lawyer in charge the province was 1/3 responsibile as well as town and it's employees. We had around 8000 nurses chopped in the Harris years. Durrng NDP we had doctors cut but now Liberals are trying to add the #'s to med school and open another
medical school in the north. May I suggest you read the walkerton report
As for walkerton I have read the report and I know the lawyer in charge the province was 1/3 responsibile as well as town and it's employees. We had around 8000 nurses chopped in the Harris years. Durrng NDP we had doctors cut but now Liberals are trying to add the #'s to med school and open another
medical school in the north. May I suggest you read the walkerton report
Keebler Elf said:Why? You'd just ignore it anyways.
Now back to your mindless rhetoric...
Really now????????
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Does any one really have the sense that their elected officials,fed,provincial or municipal represents them. For the feds and the province the backbenchers might not as well be there for the amounts of leadership they demonstrate and their virtual invisibility. Oh I know they sit in committees and they show up at ribbon cuttings or when there is photo op but where else?
In municipal politics its even worse. In Mississauga we have Hazel who kept the city in the black when the developers pumped money into city coffers. Now we have looming on the horizon Carolyn Parrish and god help us when she gets elected. In Toronto we have a completely dysfunctional group of headline grabbers from George to Rob to Adam and a mayor who leads with a inner cabinet of toadies.
Its not leadership from the elected with the good of the people in mind but rather as Howard Moscoe just said when justifying his cost of living raise that it was a negotiated part of his 4 year contract as an independent contractor.
Anyone up for a benevolent dictator?
In municipal politics its even worse. In Mississauga we have Hazel who kept the city in the black when the developers pumped money into city coffers. Now we have looming on the horizon Carolyn Parrish and god help us when she gets elected. In Toronto we have a completely dysfunctional group of headline grabbers from George to Rob to Adam and a mayor who leads with a inner cabinet of toadies.
Its not leadership from the elected with the good of the people in mind but rather as Howard Moscoe just said when justifying his cost of living raise that it was a negotiated part of his 4 year contract as an independent contractor.
Anyone up for a benevolent dictator?
