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bjsk90

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Saw an ad in the Sun.
Sun ad said:
KAYLA WEST END ALWAYS READY FOR FUN 613-2x2-7944
Decided to give it a tryout. Should've known I was dealing with a flake when she quoted two separate prices for her service between two phone calls. Anyways, made an appointment with her on the second call, but she said she wanted me to call her back from a payphone in a restaurant near her place. Fair enough, and I called her from that restaurant payphone. She didn't recognize the number, said that she has the phone number programmed into her phone. I told her I was in the restaurant she told me to be, and I didn't see any other payphones nearby. Yet, she did see a number show up but wouldn't give me the address and hung up. I'm not sure why a different number showed up, but it's possible Bell payphones have floating numbers these days, so a slightly different number shows up. I called her back from my cell and told her I was well and truly at the restaurant, but she said there are "too many cops these days". If you're that paranoid, do something else.
 

CapitalGuy

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What a flake. I hate playing the spy game - "call me from payphone x and I will send you further instructions". If she had half a brain she'd tell you to meet her at the restaurant and you could sort things out from there. Thanks for the warning on this one.
 

s_licker

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When you think about it, her security, and the need for it is understandable:

A) these one person in-calls are getting raided all the time, they are such a police priority way above street prostitution and large MP operations

B) police aren't allowed to place phone calls from a restaurant.

And you said she was dumb.
 

ohpinion8ted

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s_licker said:
...A) these one person in-calls are getting raided all the time, they are such a police priority way above street prostitution and large MP operations...
Have I missed some news stories that you've caught? This is the exact opposite of what I've heard and seen. Even those who are connected state that LE doesn't care about one-person operations as long as they are discrete and out of public view.

If this is true - I genuinely want to know more.

O.
 

s_licker

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bjsk90 said:
No it wasn't, maybe you should've used some smileys.
Evidently...the stuff about police not being able to make calls from a restaurant wasn't clue enough :cool:
 

thompo69

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s_licker said:
Evidently...the stuff about police not being able to make calls from a restaurant wasn't clue enough
With some of the bullshit people actually believe, not clue enough. :)
 
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OnTheWayOut

s_licker said:
Evidently...the stuff about police not being able to make calls from a restaurant wasn't clue enough
whaddaya mean? Every time I ask a cop to call an escort he says the ONLY place he can call from is a restaurant :p
 

ether

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slurp said:
whaddaya mean? Every time I ask a cop to call an escort he says the ONLY place he can call from is a restaurant :p
Now that's funny ... lmao
 

JoyfulC

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CapitalGuy said:
What a flake. I hate playing the spy game - "call me from payphone x and I will send you further instructions". If she had half a brain she'd tell you to meet her at the restaurant and you could sort things out from there. Thanks for the warning on this one.
Yeah, and if she was dealing with LE, she'd be busted immediately -- because a restaurant is a public place and so she'd be guilty of solicitation.

Get a clue, will you! Before you criticize women working in this business.

If you hate playing "the spy game" then give her some verification info on you, so she can have a reasonable assurance of who you are.

Remember, incall escorts -- in other words, escorts who are PIGGYBACKING the costs of your accommodations for FREE -- have many risks to face. One might be law enforcement. Others might be less savoury, such as sexual predators and robbers.

You know, you can't even order a pizza in this town without verifying. What makes you think you're entitled to get the services of an SP without taking your fair share of the risk??

Most of these girls are young and lack experience. Do you really want to put them at risk just to be cowards yourselves??

..c..
 

CapitalGuy

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JoyfulC said:
Do you really want to put them at risk just to be cowards yourselves??

..c..
Since they face no risk from me, its not my problem and I don't care. If they don't like the risks associated with the job, they should get a job in the straight world.

Sorry to offend you, but my involvement in this hobby is all about me. I treat the ladies respectfully and graciously and they will experience nothing more than a gentle and safe visit when I see them. But I am not willing to take any risk on their behalf. If they are unable to accommodate the customers' requirements, their competition will, and their competition will get our cash. Mine, anyhow.
 

CapitalGuy

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JoyfulC said:
Remember, incall escorts -- in other words, escorts who are PIGGYBACKING the costs of your accommodations for FREE -- have many risks to face.
..c..
Nothing is free. The customer is paying for the cost of the accommodation. If your personal business model does not incorporate your fixed expenditures such as accommodation costs, you should charge more for your services.
 

CapitalGuy

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JoyfulC said:
What makes you think you're entitled to get the services of an SP without taking your fair share of the risk??

..c..
That would be the fact that I have seen a couple dozen incall escorts without having had to provide any personal information about myself. The risk I take is that I am entering a strange location and anything could happen to me there (robbed, beaten). I accept that risk, and indeed I pay for taking that risk. The escort being discussed in this thread is felt, by a few Ottawa customers anyhow, to be overly cautious, so she does not get our money.

She is perfectly within her rights to take every step she feels necessary to protect herself (from being robbed, from being beaten, from being arrested), and I am perfectly within my rights to choose to give my money to an SP who provides a more hassle-free service. She makes her choices and I make mine. I think she has made things too complicated (for me, and for the couple other customers who posted in this thread), so I won't see her. That is merely the consequences of her business decision to be more cautious than others. Free country, free market. So, there are no problems here that I can see.
 

JoyfulC

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CapitalGuy said:
Since they face no risk from me, its not my problem and I don't care. If they don't like the risks associated with the job, they should get a job in the straight world.

Sorry to offend you, but my involvement in this hobby is all about me.
You're not offending me at all. I'm certainly aware that there are lots of small-minded guys around who ignore the risks we face and who must somehow believe that we're either mind-readers who can tell the difference between someone who poses a risk to us and someone who doesn't, or who simply doesn't care.

But what you may not realize is that, by refusing to understand and acknowledge the other side's concerns, you're probably contributing to all the things you hate most about this business. If all customers were like you, then all the decent women would be driven out of it and the only ones left for you to deal with would be those too desperate or too dishonest themselves to take the risks that any decent woman might take into consideration.

CapitalGuy said:
I treat the ladies respectfully and graciously and they will experience nothing more than a gentle and safe visit when I see them.
And how exactly are they supposed to know that? Ted Bundy presented himself as a polite, charming and even helpless guy. Yet he murdered a lot of women.

If you don't want to take any SP's concerns into consideration, then may you only deal with SP's who have little concern for yours.

CapitalGuy said:
But I am not willing to take any risk on their behalf. If they are unable to accommodate the customers' requirements, their competition will, and their competition will get our cash. Mine, anyhow.
Yep, exactly. Guys like you drive the decent, self-respecting women out of the market and make it possible only for women who are so desperate that they only care about the next cash to cross their palms to succeed. But is this really what's best in this industry? Women so desperate for cash that they'll take any personal risk? How much is a woman like that going to respect you if she doesn't even respect herself.

Fortunately, there aren't a lot of guys like you around. Yours is a case of may you get what you wish for -- and live to regret it.

..c..
 

JoyfulC

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CapitalGuy said:
That would be the fact that I have seen a couple dozen incall escorts without having had to provide any personal information about myself. The risk I take is that I am entering a strange location and anything could happen to me there (robbed, beaten). I accept that risk, and indeed I pay for taking that risk. The escort being discussed in this thread is felt, by a few Ottawa customers anyhow, to be overly cautious, so she does not get our money.
So why is she being discussed?

I recently stopped verifying customers -- and that wasn't because I felt it was a wise move, but rather because I felt that it was necessary to compete. Since then, I've been getting complaints that I never got before -- like from guys who maybe saw me once, had a great time, but were surprised when I didn't recognize them to see them again.

If you want to be treated like a regular, you have to give us some way to recognize you. "John" doesn't do it -- most of us know a few "johns." There are pros and cons to verifying. A con is that you have to take an extra level of risk. A pro is that you don't expect us to take that extra level of risk, and so we're more grateful for that, feel more comfortable with you, and are more likely to recognize you by name and give you preferential treatment when you call again.

CapitalGuy said:
She is perfectly within her rights to take every step she feels necessary to protect herself (from being robbed, from being beaten, from being arrested), and I am perfectly within my rights to choose to give my money to an SP who provides a more hassle-free service.
Are you saying that you prefer to deal with SPs who are so desperate that they are willing to risk being robbed, beaten, arrested? Yeesh!

CapitalGuy said:
She makes her choices and I make mine. I think she has made things too complicated (for me, and for the couple other customers who posted in this thread), so I won't see her. That is merely the consequences of her business decision to be more cautious than others. Free country, free market. So, there are no problems here that I can see.
Then why are you commenting on it, if it's not a problem for you?

Let's face it, if you see women who have little self-respect and little concern for their own safety, how much can you expect them to have for you?

If you do get robbed, beaten, blackmailed, etc. at some point by one of the winners that never asked you for any info upfront, how can you possibly come before this community and plead injury?

By choosing to deal only with desperate people, you've made your bed. And eventually you might lie in it. I personally wish you all the best because I wouldn't wish on anyone some of the things I've seen happen to either customers or SPs when they deal with desperate people.

..c..
 
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