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Ickabod

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With the likes of the Swift Boaters and Zell Miller, i'm guessing one more strike and McCain's the next to go. A reporter last night said he was distressed by the tone of Miller's speech. And let's face it, he's hangin' by the thinnest of threads. You could tell by the utter lack of passion in his own speech.

Now, about Blair:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1294572,00.html

John Kerry supporters in America have been told by Peter Hain that Downing Street is hoping the Democratic candidate wins the US presidential election in November.
Mr Hain, who sits in the cabinet as Leader of the Commons, has been in the US on a near-private visit. He met Labour supporters in New York, as well as members of the Kerry team. He has declined to discuss the visit, and his public remarks at a party thrown by the former Sunday Times editor Harold Evans were largely bland. But in private discussions with guests, his tone was markedly different.

Those who met him had the strong impression that he was acting with No 10's support, and that a Democratic victory was clearly sought. Such a supposition ought to be natural, but historic ties have been jolted by the strategic and sometimes personal alliance between George Bush and Tony Blair over Iraq. Mr Hain's visit may be seen by some as diplomatic ground-covering in the event of a Kerry victory.

In public the government will remain studiously neutral. And some Blairites doubt that Mr Kerry has the campaign drive to defeat the incumbent.

But in a sign of frustration inside the Labour party over the government's neutrality, the Blairite group Progress is to issue a scathing attack on Mr Bush's record, although the group is sympathetic to the action in Iraq; Alan Milburn, the former cabinet minister, is its honorary president.

In an editorial in its journal of the same name next week, Progress says: "By his manner, his rhetoric and sometimes his actions George Bush has presented to the world an image of America that its friends know is not its true face. That is why those who recognise that American leadership is vital and a force for good in an uncertain world will wish John Kerry well."
 

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Ickabod, if you're interested in developing an informed opinion on anything, you won't get very far by believing what the Guardian has to say. The journal’s writers and editorial staff are infamous for their predisposition to make up stuff.

On the up-side, the Guardian has the good grace, if that’s what it’s called, to retract and apologize for its falsehoods when caught-out by the facts. That’s a lot more than can be said for Canada’s two biggest media liars, the CBC and the Toronto Star.
 

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Why would another country have the audacity to comment on a US election. I don't remember our government endorsing a candidate in your most recent election. But hey, Liberals have a hard time behaving themselves.

OTB
 

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DonQuixote said:
Wha? Blair and Bush are best of friends, aren't they?

You're not turning on our most trusted ally, are you?

Who's left? (an untentional pun, but maybe not).

OTB, you're fighting a loosing battle. Give it up.
I'm sure it's just a rag tag liberal member who's frustrated with Blair's third way agenda and US centric view.

And I don't loose ;-)

OTB
 

happygrump

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onthebottom said:
Why would another country have the audacity to comment on a US election.
Happens all the time. Given the economic, social and military colonialism of the US, it's the entire world's business. I, for one, don't think it's very healthy, but it is a fact.
I don't remember our government endorsing a candidate in your most recent election.
I seem to recall that, while Dubya didn't exactly endorse Harper, there was some talk about he and Harper being on the same political page during the Canadian election. I can't seem to find the link, though... If/when I find it, I'll post it.
But hey, Liberals have a hard time behaving themselves.
Well, of course! With the current state of the planet, America's half-a-trillion dollar deficit, a war in Iraq based on lies, Repubican corporate friendlies in court and in jail, and the continual gutting of education and health spending, being "nice" obviously isn't working, is it?
 

happygrump

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onthebottom said:
And I don't loose ;-)
Oh, PULLEEEZZZZEEE.
First of all, it's spelled "lose", not "loose." "Loose" can refer to shoelaces, men or women, pants and hairpieces. (Granted, sending messages by Blackberry can be an exercise in finger frustration...!)

When will you "righties" ever get it? Contrary to the pervasive self-delusion of the political right, it's not all about you. The rest of the world understands. It's time you did too.
 

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Canada’s two biggest media liars, the CBC and the Toronto Star.
why are the right-wingers so bothered by these two media sources beats me.... would it relief you if they adopted a FOX like front
 

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Correction

happygrump said:
I seem to recall that, while Dubya didn't exactly endorse Harper, there was some talk about he and Harper being on the same political page during the Canadian election. I can't seem to find the link, though... If/when I find it, I'll post it.
Correction: The comment was apparently made by Craig Oliver, a CTV new reporter, NOT Dubya as I originally thought.
Sorry. My mistake.
 

Ickabod

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Bushpilot said:
Ickabod, if you're interested in developing an informed opinion on anything, you won't get very far by believing what the Guardian has to say. The journal’s writers and editorial staff are infamous for their predisposition to make up stuff.
Sooooooo....it's only *probably* true?

On the up-side, the Guardian has the good grace, if that’s what it’s called, to retract and apologize for its falsehoods when caught-out by the facts. That’s a lot more than can be said for Canada’s two biggest media liars, the CBC and the Toronto Star.
Frankly, with the disingenuous garbage and lies coming out of the mouths of Giuliani, Miller, Cheney, and the entire Bush administration, a "lying media" is the least of our problems.
 

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Oh, PULLEEEZZZZEEE.
First of all, it's spelled "lose", not "loose." "Loose" can refer to shoelaces, men or women, pants and hairpieces.
Looser. Someone who loses all control of bodily functions when they realize they've just fucked up royally. So actually DQ is correct. Custer must have loosed himself big time when he saw four thousand Indians coming up the hill.
 

Ickabod

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nearlynormal said:
You routinely justify your country's interference in the affairs of countless other countries yet you have the "audacity" to ask this question. WTF???
Slam!!

Hey OTB, you're not gonna take this bang on, irrefutable comment suggesting you're a hypocrite lying down, are ya?

Fight back, man. Let's see ya do a Zell Miller on this guy!!
 

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brrrrrrrrrrr

Ickabod-------Read the Monroe-Doctrine--It is in fact--American Policy to meddle.
 

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nearlynormal said:
You routinely justify your country's interference in the affairs of countless other countries yet you have the "audacity" to ask this question. WTF???
Oh please, you wet your pants when a fat ill shaven propaganda filmmaker comments on your election but justify another country taking an official stand on a US election.

OTB
 

happygrump

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onthebottom said:
Oh please, you wet your pants when a fat ill shaven propaganda filmmaker comments on your election but justify another country taking an official stand on a US election.

OTB
Very nice. Now answer the question.
 

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thanks for the link- its the first I have heard of this issue re moore and the election. If only I had heard him, I would have changed my vote.

what a little twerp- making a complaint to elections Canada.
 
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