Thoughts on limiting posting in forums to certain groups

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In https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1502734&postcount=3
Moderator said:
After much consideration [I get that this was not a shoot-from-the-hip decision.]it was decided to close the advertisers forums to regular users in order to keep the section for what it was originally intended, for advertisers to post announcements ,schedules and so on.
It was felt it would be better served to the users and advertisers to keep the threads "clean" of discussion and thus make it easier to read the announcements from the advertisers without having to sift thru, in some cases pages upon pages of disccussions that may not be totally relevent.
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And then in https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1502815&postcount=5
Amber said:
Great idea!

but just like they can`t post on advertisers` announcements etc in the advertisement section, we shouldn`t be able to post in the review section. which I know I am certainly guilty of.

if an sp has a compliment, a thank-you, a rebuttal etc. certainly there is another place to do it? [Where??? How do you connect the two (or more) resulting threads?]
if clients are going to respect our space, maybe we should respect theirs?

Amber

PS ... OMG I spelled "rebuttal" correctly ... I love TERB spell-check! ;-)
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Ok, of course I know that Terb is not a democracy, but I`d still like to express my thoughts on this. I hope Fred and the mods don`t mind.

I know there has been debate back and forth about locking down the Announcements forum. I think I am clear on the reasons for doing it. But you also lose a lot doing this. There is no chance for dialogue on the announcements.

Yes, threads get hijacked, and should not be, especially in announcements. But many times, the dialogue that results from a client request for clarification is very valuable. How is this to happen now? Advertiser posts an announcement. Client posts a question... in the Lounge? In the Review forum? Will the advertiser see it there? Will they respond there? or respond in the original announcement thread? Cross reference the two threads back and forth?

I think at the least we need some suggestions about how this new protocol should work.

Amber, I appreciate your stating your thoughts on locking down the Review forums, but I have to say with all respect that I see it very differently.

I *want* you to be able to respond to a future review I might write about you, if you want to.

For me, at least, and I suspect for many others, the chance to dialogue here with the providers is a key and critical part of the board experience on Terb.

If you lock us clients out of the Announcements forums, and the providers out of the Review forums, the only place for both is, what, the Lounge?

The same chaos will occur in Reviews as for questions about announcements. If a provider has a legitimate concern, question, comment, compliment, on a review, where is she to write it if not in the review thread?

This ability for us all to talk together is part of the magic of Terb for me (ok, sounds sentimental, so sue me :o ) - part of what really sets it apart.

As long as the mods don`t mind us discussing this, I`m inviting others from all sides to post their thoughts - with respect, please!

-Viewer
 
I for one am ok with the advertising lock down. I do not think the reviews should be locked down for the ***clients***, but I do agree that sp`s should not be allowed to post in other sp`s reviews or ad`s. I don`t allow this. after all the shit I put up with from both sides this week I’m thinking of not renewing my ad, and asking that my clients not review me at all!!!! They can feel free to pm info to those that are searching for it. Really I feel my $$ are wasted on being bashed left and right by people who act like freaking children.
I don’t like the extra work it makes for the mods, this is an adult board, and you would never know it. They have to spend their time babysitting the dolts and banning them (sending them for a time out):mad:

Oh another thing i don`t think women posters should be able to begin threads in either review section. I see way too many women useing it for free advertising when the rest of us pay.----> see example https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=137120

K I think i`m done now
 
Sheik said:
Advertising forum is just that, for advertising...
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I agree.

But really, if it was just that, this would have happened a long time ago. Let's face it, recent trends have forced the board administrators' hand. And I think change was definitely necessary.

Pages of irrelevant discussion and constant hijacked announcements are not in the spirit of this board, however productive dialogue and clarification is.

One way to resolve this would be to ensure the moderators were on top of these threads...keeping it on track and cleaning frequently...productive dialogue and clarification only...zero tolerance if you will. But I would think, this would require more moderator "horsepower" than readily available...and it just doesn't seem likely Fred is able to enlist any more mods.

That said, the other solution would be our recent decision...forums closed to regular users.

I can live with that.
 
Viewer said:
Yes, threads get hijacked, and should not be, especially in announcements.
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It would be a nice if the ad threads had the option of being locked or not by the person running the ad.

I was reading an ad this week, I could not believe how disrespectful people were being to the advertiser. I don't care if they agree or disagree with the ad/contents/SP, the lady is paying money for the ad and trying to run a business.

The person running the ad spent more time telling people politely to get out of her ad. The paid ad went from positive, to defensive, to being negative. I know some guys must get off harassing people. If the person running the ad is spending more time defending herself what good is the ad in the first place.

If the treads can't be locked individually (optionally by the person running the ad) it seems better that they are all locked.

If you have questions or feedback you could 1) pm the person/agency running the ad. If advetisers get enough PMs I am sure they will update the info in the ad thread 2)If you want discussion you could start a thread in a different area and PM the SP/agency that you have started a thread to discuss their ad.

It is the advertisers that pay for the site. It should be as easy as possible for them to get the message out without people hijacking threads.
 
Thanks for the feedback so far. It seems perhaps the problems in the announcement forums were greater than I was aware of. I actually agree with the sentiments posted so far.
 
I see that some people can post in other people's announcement threads while others can't, why not make this consistent?
 
Sheik said:
Check on the dates of the posts, also moderators can post in the advertisers forum and I believe some supporting members might accidentially have access.
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I often need to support my member as its gaining access. Once in it has a mind of its own and no longer need me.
 
Sp's should only be able to post in the Lounge and advertiser section.
 
hunter001 said:
It would be a nice if the ad threads had the option of being locked or not by the person running the ad.
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Very good idea. :)

I've heard of this being done, but only by way of special request. An option for the thread starter/advertiser on their user control panel for this would be good.
 
I think the decision to allow advertisers only to post in that section makes good sense. We can then get the info we need in a concise manner instead of reading pages of drivel that have nothing to do with the matter at hand (so to speak).

On the other hand, no problem with everyone being allowed to post everywhere else.

Good on ya Fred and mods!
 
Strongbeau said:
Only Republicans should be allowed to post in the Political Forums.
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What a mess that'd be :eek:
 
luv4lust said:
I for one am ok with the advertising lock down. I do not think the reviews should be locked down for the ***clients***, but I do agree that sp`s should not be allowed to post in other sp`s reviews or ad`s. I don`t allow this. after all the shit I put up with from both sides this week I’m thinking of not renewing my ad, and asking that my clients not review me at all!!!! They can feel free to pm info to those that are searching for it. Really I feel my $$ are wasted on being bashed left and right by people who act like freaking children.
I don’t like the extra work it makes for the mods, this is an adult board, and you would never know it. They have to spend their time babysitting the dolts and banning them (sending them for a time out):mad:

Oh another thing i don`t think women posters should be able to begin threads in either review section. I see way too many women useing it for free advertising when the rest of us pay.----> see example https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=137120

K I think i`m done now
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If I`m not mistaken, it was you who provided the invitation and the vehicle for this bashing. In addition, seeing what some of the SP`s have written in that thread about you, no wonder you`re getting bashed from both sides.

Get some help...seriously.
 
Strongbeau said:
Only Republicans should be allowed to post in the Political Forums.

;)
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yes but only those of us who have slept with women from different countries can post in the International Affairs forum
 
I don't think this new policy of limiting posts to certain forums as presenting a problem. An advertising forum is meant for advertisers and the dialogue presented in those threads can all be moved to PM. If many of the PM's begin to get repetitive, then the advertisers should think about adding more and more information to their original posts to answer these redundant questions and making good use of their advertising space. Of course, I don't see a problem with allowing posters to post in these threads, but the MODS did it for a reason and I am sure it is a good one. I for one only read the advertising posts only for schedule information or agency information. Any questions that I have are either asked in PM or over the phone. Limiting certain members from posting in the review section is a different story all together.
 
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