Thermo-Treated wood for decking.Anyone ever use it?

bazokajoe

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There seems to be some handy guys on here. I am planning on building a raised deck this spring and was thinking of using Thermory Thermo-Treated decking.It's Ash that has been heat treated to prevent rot,insects and warping.

Just curious if anybody has used it and how it has held up over time?
 

HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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I can not tell you about the specific product you asked about, but I can tell you about generic pressure treated wood on decks. After a few years the surface becomes rough and uneven. There are deck products that you can apply to make it look better and smooth it out. You may even want to consider putting it on before the deck gets rough.
 

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I've used cedar on all the decks I've built at my different homes over the years. The cedar is not as good as it used to be.
I've never used Thermo-Treated. Ash though is a good hardwood. Light color, strong and more resistant to rot than Oak.
I remember my father saying it was the wood of choice for wagon wheels. It would out last all the other woods.
Properly treated it should make for a great deck.
Heavy but strong.
 

james t kirk

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Can't speak to your product, but 2 things

1. The home show is on this week and they usually have tons of deck vendors. It would be a good opportunity to do a lot of efficient research.

2. I really like some of the composites (i.e. Man made) that are on the market. They are extremely realistic and perform far better than any wood
 

dirkd101

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Even though wood has been pressure treated it still shows signs of aging, drying out and becoming rough is part of that and it still requires a good oil based stain, linseed is the best imo, to keep it from showing the signs of aging.
 

james t kirk

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Pressure treated wood is non-graded lumber.

The stuff you frame a house out of is SPF No. 2 (I.e. Grade 2 lumber) No. 1 structural is a special order from a select few mills and used for heavy structures, timber bridges, railways, etc.

Pressure treated is wood that is so bad, it can't be graded. It does not meet the requirements of the Building code for use in structural framing.
 

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I would disagree... SPF No. 1/2 is easily obtainable in any big box store or lumber yard. 'Select' may be special order, but you'll find it in a yard. Neither would show up in an exterior application. We live in Ontario, so Spruce-Pine-Fir is our option. BC would be using D.Fir.

Pressure-treating is a process performed on the wood - the wood retains its structural properties. It is definitely referenced for use in the Ontario Building Code. It has its applications... Sill plates when close to grade and especially decks and outdoor structures for the common person. ACQ or CA are the treatments available to us in Canada with CCA pretty much gone for the average home owner yet still available for certain construction. Bridges, railway ties, etc. are another matter and are treated with creosote. Americans have more options than we do, but it doesn't matter...

While some pressure-treated wood it may not pass the visual grading of Select or No. 1/2, it would fall into No. 3 for sure. The wood is not 'garbage', it is only treated so that it survives outside. You can buy PSL Parallams that have been treated for that matter.

SPF No. 3 is stronger than the best 'Select' grade cedar as confirmed by the Canadian Wood Council (check out the CWC Span Book).

The green coloured pressure-treated products are leaving the residential market. Brown is available more so at Lowes, etc. Home Depot is selling the MicroPro Sienna now which, to me, is a better brown which better matches a 'cedar' type look. The pressure-treated deck will last forever provided that you buy 'Ground Contact' rated when in contact with the ground and that you field treat the end cuts with preservative. Use hot-dipped galvanized (HDG) nails and hangers. If you use screws for the structure, they must be stainless steel. Deck boards can be put down with the coloured screws which are rated for ACQ/CA.

To the OP:
1. Skip the new fancy product and go with the tried and true pressure-treated. If you want to splurge, upgrade the deck boards to cedar (I wouldn't bother - especially if you're staining). All wood must be maintained to keep it looking proper. It will turn to shit if you do not,
2. Get a Building Permit, hire a good contractor and spend the money on proper design and construction (foundations, etc.). Upgrade joists, beams, posts for a super-stiff and solid deck, and
3. Construction your railings as per the Ontario Building Code. People do such a shitty job, that the OBC actually has pictures on how to do it properly.
 

jcpro

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Ipe(ee-pay) is the way to go for the outdoor lumber applications. It's pretty expensive, but it will last minimum of 25 years and well over 50 years with minimum care. It's heavy as hell, hard to work with, but it's fire, bug, rot resistant and will last a lifetime.
 

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Ipe? Holy Shit?!

If you're bonkers rich, I agree with jcpro - go with the imported tropical hardwood of Ipe as you piss in your gold-plated and monogrammed urinal...

I'm not sure how a building department would react to the wood choice as it is not covered by the OBC or CWC... I'll bet an Professional Engineer would need to sign off on the design.
 

jcpro

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Ipe? Holy Shit?!

If you're bonkers rich, I agree with jcpro - go with the imported tropical hardwood of Ipe as you piss in your gold-plated and monogrammed urinal...

I'm not sure how a building department would react to the wood choice as it is not covered by the OBC or CWC... I'll bet an Professional Engineer would need to sign off on the design.
Very true. A 2x8x12ft single board runs at about $120 Canadian. And it's being used everywhere, these days. It's very popular in the commercial developments. If you look closely outside few of the newest properties downtown, you'll notice ipe on fences, gates, decks, etc. It will probably outlast the building.
Ipe has a very popular side effect. The "surplus" is great at greasing the wheels.
 
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