The February Revolution

[Aardvark154]

Tomorrow (March 15) marks the centenary of the Abdication of Emperor Nicholas II and the formation of the Russian Provisional Government. It was a deeply troubled period leading to much of the remainder of the century being a tragedy for Russia.

As the typically dark Russian joke goes “Do you know that the Aurora is the most powerful ship in the world? (How could that be both we and the West have far more powerful warships) Ah, it fired but a single shot and destroyed the entire country for 75 years.”*




* Although actually referring to the October Bolshevik Revolution it is apropos.

 

[Insidious Von]

It need not have been that way.

Between March and October the situation in Russia was in flux. It was a poker game, Kerensky had two aces and Lenin bluffed him out.

 

[mandrill]

Tomorrow (March 15) marks the centenary of the Abdication of Emperor Nicholas II and the formation of the Russian Provisional Government. It was a deeply troubled period leading to much of the remainder of the century being a tragedy for Russia.

As the typically dark Russian joke goes “Do you know that the Aurora is the most powerful ship in the world? (How could that be both we and the West have far more powerful warships) Ah, it fired but a single shot and destroyed the entire country for 75 years.”*




* Although actually referring to the October Bolshevik Revolution it is apropos.

One could argue that the tragedy continues, as the successor to the communist dictatorship is the Putin kleptocracy.

 

[malata]

Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia.

He looks like Aardvark and dresses up like Oagre.

 

[jcpro]

One could argue that the tragedy continues, as the successor to the communist dictatorship is the Putin kleptocracy.

One could argue, and that's actually correct, that Russia has ended the 1917 experiment with the second election of Czar Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Russia has returned to its regular state. A somewhat autocratic state with an European veneer, slave's body and an Asian soul. We should be profoundly thankful to Vladimir Ilich, Uncle Joe and their merry men for completely pacifying and defanging one country that had a shot at being the Euro/Asian superpower.

 

[Insidious Von]

You're right.

Russia is a scientific and culturally advanced society ruled with greed, cruelty and incompetence. This has been the case long before Lenin won his poker game with the White Russians.

Case in point: Prokofiev's scathing rebuke of Stalin (commissioned by David Oistrakh) is considered one of the greatest works in music of the 20th Century. Awesome interpretation by the Scotslass.

 

[SkyRider]

The Jews always seem to get screwed.

 

[dirkd101]

Thanks Aardy, we can always count on you for some good history. Keep it up!

I love the quote btw! I had never heard that and it made me chuckle.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...-without-tsar-first-time-300-years-180962503/

An interesting fact, since this was raised. Did you know that Canadian troops that were destined for the battlefields in France, were re-routed to the west coast at wars end. They were staged there and after a small portion of their numbers rioted, they made their way to Russia and were part of a multinational force on Russian soil during the revolution?

The book is a UBC publication, I'll post the title for those interested in this small and not widely known, part of our Canadian military history.

http://www.ubcpress.ca/books/pdf/chapters/2010/FromVictoriaToVladivostok.pdf

Here's some more info.

http://laughton.ca/documents/ww1/pub7.pdf

 

[benstt]

We should be profoundly thankful to Vladimir Ilich, Uncle Joe and their merry men for completely pacifying and defanging one country that had a shot at being the Euro/Asian superpower.

The Russians lost to Japan in the Russo-Japanese war in 1904/1905, and then did not perform well leading up to 1917. There was no defanging. They had huge agricultural, industrial, and military reforms to get through no matter what political system lead them.

It is interesting to contemplate if they would have survived ww2, let alone be a decisive player, without the ruthless leadership and control of the economy they had.

 

[benstt]

An interesting fact, since this was raised. Did you know that Canadian troops that were destined for the battlefields in France, were re-routed to the west coast at wars end. They were staged there and after a small portion of their numbers rioted, they made their way to Russia and were part of a multinational force on Russian soil during the revolution?

If I find the book again, it was a Canadian military publication, I'll post the title for those interested in this small and not widely known, part of our Canadian military history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

 

[jcpro]

The Russians lost to Japan in the Russo-Japanese war in 1904/1905, and then did not perform well leading up to 1917. There was no defanging. They had huge agricultural, industrial, and military reforms to get through no matter what political system lead them.

It is interesting to contemplate if they would have survived ww2, let alone be a decisive player, without the ruthless leadership and control of the economy they had.

Seriously, no defanging? The The Russian/ German/Austrian conflict was extremely costly to Russia. The Civil War and the post war ideological cleaning destroyed everything that was competent in Russia. And Stalin completed the process with purges-which decimated the Red Army so badly they almost lost the war. By the time I started visiting the Soviet Union in the mid 70s, the country was literally decomposing.

 

[Aardvark154]

Before World War I Russia was well on its way to industrializing, building railways etc. . . of course it was in the self interest of the Soviet's and their friends to downplay this, indeed deny its truth, but there are several studies that suggest if the War and the Revolution hadn't taken place Russia by the late 1930's would have been more industrialized than it was after the various five year plans.

As to the Military the shock of the Russo-Japanese War had caused Russia to pay serious attention to rearmament, this was one of the fears of the German General Staff which lead to the fateful decisions leading to the outbreak of World War I. They were desperately afraid that within less than a decade Russia would be strong enough that Germany would find it impossible to fight against both Russia and France.

 

[SkyRider]

Does anybody know if the following is true?

"IN THE DARK NIGHT OF JULY 16 1918, Tzar Nicholas II and his pious Christian family were shot and bayoneted in cold blood by these Cheka Jews:
1. Jacob Yurovksy, a Jewish Czech
2. Sergei Medvedjev
3. Lev Nikulin, a Jewish Czech
4. Peter Yermakov
5. Fyodor Vaganov, a New York Jew
6. Jacob Sverdlov, (Yankel Solomon), the first President of the Soviet Union. He gave the order to murder the Royal Family. Sverdlov began his Anti Christian career when he joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902.
*** This was the beginning of the wholesale slaughter of over 8,000,000 Russian Orthodox Christians from 1918 through 1943"

 

[SkyRider]

It is interesting to contemplate if they would have survived ww2, let alone be a decisive player, without the ruthless leadership and control of the economy they had.

The Nazis made the same mistake that Napoleon made. They over stretched their supply line. Plus, their invasion started late (June 22nd) and the Russian Winter that year was particularly brutal and started early. Doubt the Russians would have actually lost the war, worse result would be a stalemate.

 

[jcpro]

Does anybody know if the following is true?

"IN THE DARK NIGHT OF JULY 16 1918, Tzar Nicholas II and his pious Christian family were shot and bayoneted in cold blood by these Cheka Jews:
1. Jacob Yurovksy, a Jewish Czech
2. Sergei Medvedjev
3. Lev Nikulin, a Jewish Czech
4. Peter Yermakov
5. Fyodor Vaganov, a New York Jew
6. Jacob Sverdlov, (Yankel Solomon), the first President of the Soviet Union. He gave the order to murder the Royal Family. Sverdlov began his Anti Christian career when he joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902.
*** This was the beginning of the wholesale slaughter of over 8,000,000 Russian Orthodox Christians from 1918 through 1943"

Don't know about the minions, but the order for the execution came from Moscow and that meant Lenin in 1918.

 

[SkyRider]

that meant Lenin in 1918.

Lenin is 1/4 or 1/2 Jewish.
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Lenins-Jewish-roots-put-on-display-in-Russian-museum

 

[jcpro]

Lenin is 1/4 or 1/2 Jewish.
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Lenins-Jewish-roots-put-on-display-in-Russian-museum

Yeah, that's the line. And Dzerzyhinsky was a Pole and Stalin a Georgian and Nikita was a Ukrainian. The poor Russian people were tormented by foreigners. Let's not remember that all of their birthplaces were annexed by Russia at one time or another. Perhaps that's the history's revenge.

 

[Insidious Von]

An interesting fact, since this was raised. Did you know that Canadian troops that were destined for the battlefields in France, were re-routed to the west coast at wars end. They were staged there and after a small portion of their numbers rioted, they made their way to Russia and were part of a multinational force on Russian soil during the revolution?

Very cruel move on the part of Prime Minister Borden. The Multinational Force disembarked at Vladivostok - with the acquiescence of the Japanese. How many Canadians returned home after they were defeated by the Red Army commanded by General Tukachevsky and his military valet Zhukov? Does anyone have any information.

After the Civil War ended Tukachevsky's Siberian Divisions became the vanguard of the revolution. Tukachevsky was aligned with Leon Trotsky, he became Field Marshall in the 1920's. Had Stalin, in his gross incompetence, not purged him the Germans would not have gotten remotely close to Moscow in 1941. Zhukov remained in Siberia and dealt the Japanese a crushing defeat while Stalin's was partitioning Poland with his good buddy Hitler.

 

[mandrill]

Very cruel move on the part of Prime Minister Borden. The Multinational Force disembarked at Vladivostok - with the acquiescence of the Japanese. How many Canadians returned home after they were defeated by the Red Army commanded by General Tukachevsky and his military valet Zhukov? Does anyone have any information.

After the Civil War ended Tukachevsky's Siberian Divisions became the vanguard of the revolution. Tukachevsky was aligned with Leon Trotsky, he became Field Marshall in the 1920's. Had Stalin, in his gross incompetence, not purged him the Germans would not have gotten remotely close to Moscow in 1941. Zhukov remained in Siberia and dealt the Japanese a crushing defeat while Stalin's was partitioning Poland with his good buddy Hitler.

IIRC, this is not accurate. The multi national force was not effective and was simply withdrawn after a while. It was not "defeated". They fought no large battles and casualties were not heavy.

 

[mandrill]

Does anybody know if the following is true?

"IN THE DARK NIGHT OF JULY 16 1918, Tzar Nicholas II and his pious Christian family were shot and bayoneted in cold blood by these Cheka Jews:
1. Jacob Yurovksy, a Jewish Czech
2. Sergei Medvedjev
3. Lev Nikulin, a Jewish Czech
4. Peter Yermakov
5. Fyodor Vaganov, a New York Jew
6. Jacob Sverdlov, (Yankel Solomon), the first President of the Soviet Union. He gave the order to murder the Royal Family. Sverdlov began his Anti Christian career when he joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902.
*** This was the beginning of the wholesale slaughter of over 8,000,000 Russian Orthodox Christians from 1918 through 1943"

Again, you are reading racist fake history sites. The Russian Revolution was not a Jewish conspiracy.