The atmosphere now contains more carbon dioxide than in all of human history

[yung_dood]

CLIMATE CHANGE

The atmosphere now contains more carbon dioxide than in all of human history

By Carter Sherman on Apr 21, 2017

One of the most significant contributors to climate change shows no signs of slowing down.

On Tuesday, Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory found that there is now more planet-warming carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than ever previously recorded in human history — more than 410 parts per million. And as the atmosphere continues to trap more heat, Earth’s climate is quickly approaching numbers unseen in the past 50 million years.

This number is likely to increase, since carbon dioxide emissions — a major contributor to climate change, as they block heat from leaving the atmosphere — can take anywhere between 20 and several hundred thousands years to disappear from the planet. So even though global carbon emissions have remained flat for the past three years, those emissions remain extremely difficult to eradicate.

Before the industrial age, carbon dioxide levelled off at about 280 parts per million. But in 2013, the Mauna Loa Observatory found that carbon dioxide levels had permanently surpassed the 400 parts per million mark. Even at the time, that measurement was extraordinary, because the atmosphere hadn’t contained that much carbon dioxide in the past 10 to 15 million years.

More than 195 countries pledged to cut down on their greenhouse gas emissions as part of the Paris climate accords, which aimed to help keep the global temperature from increasing two degrees Celsius — the temperature rise that scientists have long cited as an irreversible tipping point that could potentially leave the planet too hot for human habitation. This new carbon dioxide measurement is not good news for people hoping that effort is working.

But it will likely have little impact on U.S. policy, as President Donald Trump already looks prepared to gut the United States’s participation in the Paris accords.

https://news.vice.com/story/the-atmosphere-now-contains-more-carbon-dioxide-than-in-all-of-human-history

 

[Aardvark154]

On Tuesday, Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory found that there is now more planet-warming carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than ever previously recorded in human history

But all of recorded human history means not even as old as Canadian Confederation. Just like the statement the worst recorded snow in (name the place) but "recorded" instantly means in the past 140 years further there has to be an official weather station.

global carbon emissions have remained flat for the past three years, those emissions remain extremely difficult to eradicate.

So one can look at this as the glass is half full or half empty.

 

[fuji]

But all of recorded human history means not even as old as Canadian Confederation.

That's not what the article says.

 

[bazokajoe]

I am all for summer weather year around.

 

[canada-man]

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that .. the threat of global warming.. would fit the bill…. the real enemy, then, is humanity itself….we believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or….one invented for the purpose.” — Club of Rome

 

[fuji]

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that .. the threat of global warming.. would fit the bill…. the real enemy, then, is humanity itself….we believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or….one invented for the purpose.” — Club of Rome

That's quite a lot of ..'s, I smell a deception.

 

[yung_dood]

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that .. the threat of global warming.. would fit the bill…. the real enemy, then, is humanity itself….we believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or….one invented for the purpose.” — Club of Rome

Are you following me now? With your unfactual monsense.

 

[yung_dood]

Thousands rally around the world for ‘March for Science’
Global 'March for Science' protests call for action on climate change
Tens of thousands rally across the world in a rebuke of Donald Trump’s dismissal of climate science

Helen Davidson and Oliver Milman in Washington
Saturday 22 April 2017 05.55 BST Last modified on Saturday 22 April 2017 17.06 BST

Hundreds of global protest marches in the name of science kicked off in Australia and New Zealand on Saturday, ahead of large crowds expected across the US.

Tens of thousands of scientists are this weekend rallying around the world in a rebuke of Donald Trump’s dismissal of climate science and attempts to cut large areas of scientific research.

More than 600 marches, largely concentrated in the US, Europe, South America and Australia, began amid warnings from organisers that science is “under attack” from the Trump administration.

Placards demanded “science not silence”, declared “there is no plan b”, and offered support from “florists for research-based legislation”, showing the crowd was not restricted to those in scientific community.

Chants asked what people wanted? “Science”, the marches bellowed. When? “Following peer review.”

Wellington in New Zealand, was one of the first marches to start, with protesters gathering on the waterfront and waving signs calling for action. Similar crowds gathered in Auckland.


Veronika Meduna
(@VeronikaMeduna)
New Zealand is off in #marchforscience @ScienceMarch_NZ pic.twitter.com/1PWdGeeAto

April 21, 2017
In Sydney, hundreds gathered at Martin Place in the centre of the city and walked to Hyde Park. Speakers included Dr Angela Maharaj, lecturer at the University of New South Wales Climate Change Research Centre, and former Liberal party leader, Dr John Hewson, who told the crowd politicians’ ignorance of climate change was “an embarrassment beyond belief”.

Anti-tobacco campaigner Professor Simon Chapman, science writer Dr Jonica Newby, and writer and feminist Eva Cox, were also scheduled to speak.


Bridget Foley
(@bridgetcfly)
GO CAPTAIN PLANET #marchforscience Saving our planet is the thing to do! #heisahero #hero #sciencenotsilence pic.twitter.com/FoCjXJmSyT

April 22, 2017
Australian scientists and supporters flocked to 12 national events, including Brisbane, Canberra, Hobart, Adelaide, and Melbourne.

“It is very important that the March for Science is a community-led march; it’s a statement that is coming from the community,” professor Stuart Khan, an organiser of the Sydney march, told the ABC.

“It’s not led by the academics, it’s not led by eminent scientists because it’s not about them, it’s about the community saying: ‘This is what is important to us’.”


In Melbourne, immunologist and nobel laureate Prof Peter Doherty called for a price on carbon.

A preview of his speech on Friday said there were “major threats to the global culture of science” in today’s world.

“Why? A clear understanding of what is happening with, for example, the atmosphere, oceans and climate creates irreconcilable problems for powerful vested interests, particularly in the fossil fuel and coastal real estate sectors.”

Small crowds also gathered in Tokyo and South Korea’s second biggest city of Busan.


MarchForScience Aust
(@ScienceMarchAu)
We are here! #marchforscience pic.twitter.com/3cQ0x36TdJ

April 22, 2017

Mike Ticher

April 22, 2017
The marches, which take place on Earth Day, come one week before the Peoples Climate March, a series of large-scale climate change events that will be more overtly political.

“The March for Science and the Peoples Climate March go hand-in-hand,” said Dr Geoffrey Supran, an expert in renewable energy at Harvard University.

“Because attacks on science don’t just hurt scientists, they hurt scientists’ ability to protect the people, and climate change epitomises that. When politicians cater to fossil fuel interests by denying the basic realities of climate science and pursuing anti-science climate policy, they endanger the jobs, justice, and livelihoods of ordinary people everywhere.”

The global March for Science movement was not specifically directed at Trump, but he has proved to be a catalysing force, honorary national co-chair of the group, Lydia Villa-Komaroff, a molecular cellular biologist said last week.

“There seems to have become this disconnect between what science is and its value to society,” she said.

“Fundamental, basic science really underlies all of modern life these days. We have taken it so for granted.”

In the US, the main march in Washington DC will see thousands of protesters converge on the national mall decrying attempts to slash funding for basic government research into cancer, climate change, forensics and other areas.

Scientists have also been perturbed by the Trump administration’s attempts to sideline or ignore research and by repeated gaffes by key Trump appointees, such as Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt, who denied that carbon dioxide is a key driver of global warming.

Ayana Johnson, a marine biologist and march organiser, said Trump’s policies have been “horrifying” but added that the hundreds of companion marches around the world showed there is a “global trend of anti-intellectualism” where politicians reject evidence-based policymaking in favour of playing to voters’ base emotions.

Some scientists have criticised their colleagues for throwing themselves into the political fray by openly touting the benefits of science in front of the White House.

But Bill Nye, a well-known science communicator in the US, said scientists are in a “dangerous place” and must speak out.

“Science has always been political but we don’t want science to be partisan,” he told the Guardian. “Objective truths have become set aside and diminished and lawmakers are acting like a strong belief in something is as valid as careful peer review."

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/22/global-march-for-science-protests-call-for-action-on-climate-change

 

[KBear]

More than 195 countries pledged to cut down on their greenhouse gas emissions as part of the Paris climate accords

Is nice to increase taxes on emissions to support an ever increasing bureaucracy, but the clearing of the tropical forests needed for an ever increasing population adds more greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere than all the cars and trucks on the planet. All the billions more people also want to drive SUVs, so think we're screwed.

Can see CO2 and temperature updates here https://www.co2.earth/global-warming-update

 

[fuji]

Is nice to increase taxes on emissions to support an ever increasing bureaucracy, but the clearing of the tropical forests needed for an ever increasing population adds more greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere than all the cars and trucks on the planet. All the billions more people also want to drive SUVs, so think we're screwed.

Can see CO2 and temperature updates here https://www.co2.earth/global-warming-update

What do you propose to do about it?

There's no doubt were warming the planet, and no doubt that our efforts to limit or reverse it are failing.

Reminds me of this:

 

[Butler1000]

What do you propose to do about it?

There's no doubt were warming the planet, and no doubt that our efforts to limit or reverse it are failing.

Reminds me of this:

Until the harsh decision to enact population controls comes in its just a matter of time. Reducing emissions and conservation only goes so far compared to increased population.

Add in globalization to many rural nations and it's exponential.

So quite simply under people stop having so many babies, and in fact even lower the population this isn't solvable in the long term.

War, pandemic, social upheaval will eventually solve it. At this point I'm just hoping it doesn't happen for about 30-40 years.

 

[KBear]

What do you propose to do about it?

yes, the picture is about right.

Is a good idea not to pollute for sure, but this is a global problem and don't think there is much we can do to make any real difference. Can hardly tell other nations not to industrialize, drive SUVs or clear their forests when we've cleared ours, and who are we to tell them what to do. Ending migration and letting the populations fall or collapse in areas that become uninhabitable might help, don't know, but would be heartless.

 

[Aardvark154]

That's not what the article says.

Really?

than ever previously recorded in human history

 

[KBear]

War, pandemic, social upheaval will eventually solve it. At this point I'm just hoping it doesn't happen for about 30-40 years.

Best keep the bug out bag packed and ready

 

[fuji]

Really?

Reading the article refutes your definition of recorded history in favor of a definition meaning THOUSANDS of years.

 

[Steeper]

We are going into what they call a cold rainforest climate low temperature and lot of greenery

 

[Aardvark154]

Reading the article refutes your definition of recorded history in favor of a definition meaning THOUSANDS of years.

So you are arguing that they didn't mean what they wrote and that the article is poorly written. OK.

 

[saxon]

yes, the picture is about right.

Is a good idea not to pollute for sure, but this is a global problem and don't think there is much we can do to make any real difference. Can hardly tell other nations not to industrialize, drive SUVs or clear their forests when we've cleared ours, and who are we to tell them what to do. Ending migration and letting the populations fall or collapse in areas that become uninhabitable might help, don't know, but would be heartless.

The Liberals want to drastically increase immigration to Canada, they claim it's the only way to grow our economy. But that means more vehicles on the road and more homes to heat and cool, the higher our population gets the more pollution and greenhouse gases, so how's that going to work?

 

[Butler1000]

Best keep the bug out bag packed and ready

Funny enough this week I was on you tube looking up ideas. But for bug out and for pantry stock up ideas.

Lots of crazy people out there......but wade through and you find a few calm ones who have good tips.

And I will be out of the city hopefully in about 15 years well before the worst of it reaches our shores. But I expect Africa is going to have a rough time of it. And some European nations as well if a Mass migration occurs.

 

[Nesbot]

Anybody who denies science in the name of politics is a...well...I just don't know.