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The alternative internet

buttercup

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In the old days of computers, if you wanted to save something, you had to deliberately save it, give it a title, etc. Anything you recorded wiped out what was stored there already.

That changed with the packet-switching internet. Packetization cannot work unless the packets are recorded along the way. And once they're recorded, there is nothing to unrecord them. The whole intrusive big-brother side of modern communications happens because it is easier to keep recordings of the packets than it is to unrecord them.

Once they're recorded -- for nothing -- hey, let's make use of this free tool.

Nobody's to blame. It just sort of happened.

What we need, of course, is an alternative internet. A new internet, where the technology does not depend on recording the transmitted content A technology where users can see, for themselves, that nothing is recorded (unless you record it yourself).

Obviously, the present technology is not good enough, where the technology depends on all your private stuff being recorded by the communications providers. Your only safeguard, now, is that the government agencies (sometimes) have to get a warrant to view it. Usually, they can just view it anyway. That is ludicrously inadequate.

What we need is a communications technology (like telephones) where the technology does not operate by recording the content. The technology itself must not only not leave a record, it must be seen to not leave a record.

No reason why we can't have two internets -- one that depends on recordings, like now, with all the good things that stem from that, when we want them, and another parallel private internet where the technology does not itself require anything to be recorded, and we can see that it doesn't.

We should make this move fairly soon. Our governments, accustomed as they have become to assuming they have a mandate to intrude into everything, could well make the very idea of a private internet illegal (if they haven't already).

Over to you, innovative communications experts.
 

Scarey

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dark web has been around for years.
I don't know much about the "dark web".What is it's concept aside from what the gent said above?I've never really asked to much about it because the few times I've seen mention of it it's usually accompanied by the words"where the child pornographers hide" or something to that effect within the dialogue.
 

benstt

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That changed with the packet-switching internet. Packetization cannot work unless the packets are recorded along the way. And once they're recorded, there is nothing to unrecord them. The whole intrusive big-brother side of modern communications happens because it is easier to keep recordings of the packets than it is to unrecord them.
Umm, no. Packets do not need to be recorded by the network in order for a switched network to work. The network does it's very best to pass packets along and forget about them asap.
 

simon482

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I don't know much about the "dark web".What is it's concept aside from what the gent said above?I've never really asked to much about it because the few times I've seen mention of it it's usually accompanied by the words"where the child pornographers hide" or something to that effect within the dialogue.
that is part of it but you have to go looking for it and know the keywords. i haven't spent to much time on dark web maybe a week in total over the years, i have no reason to hide myself or what i do that severely. from what i read and saw though it is 100% dark meaning you can't be tracked. it doesn't work the same as this though, you don't just type in a web address and surf around. you have sections to click on and in those sections you find what you were looking for. i used it mostly for torrents for the short time i was there and i found i couldn't get anything from there i couldn't find on any torrent site.

in the short time i used it i never saw child porn but i didn't go looking for it. i can see how they would like it since it can't be tracked since it passes through so many servers and shit you are hidden so well. there is no google or anything you have to know what you want and where to find it. you need to download a program to use it and i wasn't to happy about that. after a week i couldn't get the hang of it and bailed.
 

Buick Mackane

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Any sicko admitting to being interested in hiding their actions will be watched more closely by the authorities. :eyebrows:
 
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