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Iranian leader thanks Turkish PM for his stance in Davos crisis
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/world/10899259.asp?scr=1
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thanked Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his stance during a discussion panel on Gaza on Thursday in the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

Iranian leader thanks Turkish PM for his stance in Davos crisis

A message released by Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that Iranian people appreciated Erdogan's stance at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

Meanwhile a demonstration took place in Iranian capital of Tehran with participation of representatives from associations of undergraduates and nongovernmental organizations to show their support to Erdogan.

The group chanted slogans saying that "Long Live Erdogan" and "We Support Erdogan".

Prime Minister Erdogan on Thursday walked off the stage at a panel discussion on Gaza at the World Economic Forum in Davos after the moderator interrupted his speech in response to Israeli President Shimon Peres' criticisms
and said that he will not attend the Davos meetings in the future.uture.
 

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Turkish PM "upset" at American Jews, denies rise in anti-Semitism
Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said he is very upset at the American Jews who criticized him over his harsh rhetoric regarding Israel's Gaza operations.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10898408.asp?gid=244
Turkish PM upset at American Jews, denies rise in anti-Semitism

The Washington Post published an interview with Erdogan on Saturday but it is unclear when the interview took place.

"And I'm very upset at (American Jews) Beginning with the Jews who live in my country, they are witnesses to my attitude toward Jews. As an individual, I have always declared that anti-Semitism is a crime against humanity," Erdogan was quoted as replying when the American Jews organizations' reaction was asked.



In a letter to Erdogan last week, AJC and four other American Jewish organizations expressed profound concern over the current wave of anti-Semitic manifestations in Turkey.



As a prime minister he has always been against anti-Semitism and his frustration is against the current Israeli government because they did not act fairly toward Turkey, Erdogan added, according to the Washington Post.



When the Washington Post reporter said "But I've seen the anti-Semitic signs around Turkey recently," Erdogan replied: "These are individual attempts," according to the transcript of the interview.



Turkey has harshly criticized Israel's operations in Gaza. In the latest incident that strained ties, Erdogan has stormed out of the Gaza session with Israeli president in Davos after the moderator did not give him floor to speak.



Observers say the Davos crisis is unlikely to deteriorate the two countries' relations in the short time but its impacts will be seen indirectly.



ISRAEL-SYRIA WERE CLOSE TO DEAL

The Turkish prime minister said Israel and Syria were "very close" to initiating direct peace talks just days before the start of the Israeli attacks on Gaza, which left more than 1,300 people killed.



Erdogan said Turkey was awaiting a response from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert regarding the Israel's position on peace talks with Syria.



Turkey had been mediating between Syria and Israel. Ankara had ended its efforts after Israel attacked the Gaza Strip.



On the night of December 23, just four days before Israel launched air offensive in Gaza, Erdogan said Israel and Syria were "very close" to moving to direct peace talks on the future of the Golan Heights.



"Olmert's last sentence was, 'As soon as I get back I will consult with my colleagues and get back to you.' As I waited for his response,... on December 27, bombs started falling on Gaza," Erdogan told the Washington Post. Olmert paid a visit to Ankara on Dec. 23 and held a 5.5-hours-long meeting with Erdogan.



Erdogan denied his anger at Israel stems from Olmert's failure to inform him of the impending Gaza operation.



He also revealed that it was he who arranged a secret meeting in Istanbul two years ago between the foreign ministers of Israel and Pakistan, the two countries who do not have diplomatic relations.



No dialogue was published regarding the Davos crisis, signaling the interview was made prior to the incident.
 

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Turkish PM becomes a hit after Davos
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10895538.asp
ISTANBUL - Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s heated exchange with Israeli President Shimon Peres at the World Economic Forum in Davos on Thursday was widely covered by Turkish newspapers yesterday.

Turkish PM becomes a hit after Davos Daily Hürriyet went with the headline "Davos’ Spirit Dies." In its sub-headline, the daily went on to say that Prime Minister Erdoğan, who reacted harshly to Israeli President Peres's angry attitude, criticized the moderator for not giving him enough time and had left the panel. A caption beneath the headline made reference to moderator David Ignatius from the Washington Post stating that he was known for his closeness with the Armenian lobby and has in the past-criticized Erdoğan's policies on the Middle East.

Daily Star allocated the whole front page to the story, headlining the incident as a "Historic Ultimatum." A picture of Erdoğan dismissing President Peres with a hand gesture took up the majority of the page and a quote from Erdoğan was used as a sub-headline "When it comes to killing, you know very well how to kill."

Daily Sabah said Erdoğan had been welcomed by thousands of people at Istanbul's Atatürk Airport at 2.15 a.m.

Daily Vatan’s headline was " Peres Provoked, Erdoğan left aggressively," and went on to quote Erdoğan who spoke at a joint press conference, as saying that the Israeli president did not tell the truth in his 25-minute speech.

Daily Radikal went with the headline "A Kasimpaşa tune in Davos," a reference to the prime minister’s birthplace, and quoted the prime minister as saying he would never return to Davos again.

Conservative newspapers Yeni Şafak and Zaman also headlined the story. Yeni Şafak went with " Historic Slap," and quoted Erdoğan as saying, "Differences in religion are not important. Anti- Semitism and people and phobias against Muslims are human crimes, it does not matter what religion they are from." The daily also highlighted that Israeli President Shimon Perez had called Erdoğan and apologized for the tension that occurred in Davos during the session on Gaza. Zaman headlined the incident as "Erdoğan storms out of the panel and Peres apologizes."

Foreign coverage of the incident
The heated rhetoric of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan toward Israel made headlines across the world.

BBC News reported that Turkey's prime minister stormed off the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos after a heated debate on Gaza with Israel's president. It was reported that in reaction to Erdoğans remark: "I find it very sad that people applaud what you said. You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong," Peres responded: "The tragedy of Gaza is not Israel, it is Hamas, and if rockets were fired into Istanbul you would have reacted the same."

Israeli English daily The Jerusalem Post covered the story of Erdoğan criticizing Peres and leaving Davos as one of its top headlines and described the prime minister's arrival to Istanbul as the homecoming of a hero, stating "Some outside the airport gate held banners that applauded his Palestinian stance in Davos."

Israel’s daily Haaretz highlighted Erdoğan’s statement that his anger over Gaza expressed in Davos was directed at the Israeli government, not the Jewish people. "I am very sorry for what happened and friends could sometimes have an argument between themselves," Peres told Erdogan during the telephone conversation, it was reported.
 

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Yes bro, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an over educated ape!
But, now lets stay on the subject talking about this courageous Turkish hero who stood up against powers in Davos ..
 

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Yes bro, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an over educated ape!
AN OVEREDUCATED APE!!! Didn't he once say "there are no homosexuals in Iran"!!!!... Please explain that to me!!:rolleyes:
 

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Please don't call him president bro. We both know he is a puppet of supreme ape and the 2005 election was rigged after hundreds of much better qualified candidates were disqualified by the assembly of apes.

A (possibly fake) university degree doesn't make anyone educated. He may have studied a few mathematical equations or the behaviour of asphalt or design of roads, but his sub human way of thinking, his hatrate, his submission to apes, his inhuman criminal records (as a former revolutionary guard), his represssive actions towards Iranian people, his betrayal, his ugly looks, his low class dress, .....etc. make him as low as his ape bosses. He is nothing and no one (least of all a president) just like that other ruling apes who have turned our land into the planet of the apes with apes in power and humans under their rule, for now.

As far as the subject at hand, the Turkish prime minister, it is the action that matters not words (Turkey has the best relationship with Israel among all muslem countries). But the arab - Israeli conflict is an arab Israeli matter and it does not concern me (neither does it concern Iranian people). What concerns me is that fact that our nation is being under enormous repression since 1979 such that people are arrested and end up in jail for even having a private party. No freedom of any kind exists. Prisons are full of students, doctors, professors, journalists, liberals, democrats and feminists. Women are being beaten for asking equality, economy is in disastrous shape with 30% inflation and unemployment. Youth are desperate and suicide rate the highest in the world. I am sorry but With all these, a message of Ahmadinejad to Turkish prime minister of of no importance to me.
You may disagree with a lot of stuff re this man, but he is ,never the less, the current elected president for now, just as he will not going to get re-elected next time.
He has a Phd from one of the best universities and hard to get into in the world and his is very sharp... for example looking at his high school records; he was a solid A+ student. . you know how difficult it was to be an A student in High school.. having 16+ tough subjects each term, tough rating system, yet you fail one subject you had to repeat the whole damn term all over again ...etc
He was from a poor family,yet he got a scholarship and study at Alborz HG .. the best in Tehran..and then graduated with score of > 19 ...
Tehran is beautiful now and modernized a lot during his term in the office as a mayor; i.e., subway system, excellent public transportation system, new underground roads & tunnels ....parks, new building codes and by laws (for earthquake) ...etc
The problem with him however is..that he was from a poor and religious family with extreme fanatical views ..!
So do recognize that you are now making the exact same common Halo errors (which is like trying to paint the same wall with different colors, using one dirty brush!)as many people on Terb particularly on the Zionist side or regular anti-Iranians do make all the time ... because they have lost their objectivity and rational by letting their biases cloud their judgments!
 

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persis said:
You may disagree with a lot of stuff re this man, but he is ,never the less, the current elected president for now, just as he will not going to get re-elected next time.
He has a Phd from one of the best universities and hard to get into in the world and his is very sharp... lfor example looking at his high school records he was a solid A+ student. . you know how difficult it was to be an A student in High school..16+ tough subjects each term, tough rating system, yet you fail one subject you had to repeat the whole term all overa gain ...etc
There is a fine line between being a genius and being mentally challenged.
 

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HERE THE SAMPLE of the case I was talking about regarding
you see how quickly they show up here :)

"Halo errors (which is like trying to paint the same wall with different colors, using one dirty brush!)as many people on Terb particularly on the Zionist side or regular anti-Iranians do make all the time ... because they have lost their objectivity and rational by letting their biases cloud their judgments!"

Mia.Colpa said:
There is a fine line between being a genius and being mentally challenged.
 

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persis said:
HERE THE SAMPLE of the case I was talking about regarding
you see how quickly they show up here :)

"Halo errors (which is like trying to paint the same wall with different colors, using one dirty brush!)as many people on Terb particularly on the Zionist side or regular anti-Iranians do make all the time ... because they have lost their objectivity and rational by letting their biases cloud their judgments!"
Here's one for you, it's called the insanity factor:

There are some Terbites, which shall remain nameless, lol, that keep cutting, pasting and posting all kinds of different anti semitic BS but they're expecting a different reaction from the Jewish supporters. Going around and around and around in circles with the same BS results in lost objectivity and rationality, this is insanity.
 

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Mia.Colpa said:
Here's one for you, it's called the insanity factor:

There are some Terbites, which shall remain nameless, lol, that keep cutting, pasting and posting all kinds of different anti semitic BS but they're expecting a different reaction from the Jewish supporters. Going around and around and around in circles with the same BS results in lost objectivity and rationality, this is insanity.
"different anti semitic BS"

What kind of anti semitic is that...anti semitic this, anti semitic that..all
BS BS BS...
you want to use this now old tried and useless tactic to silence people from criticizing Zionist for their crimes..then you better start showing proof as "when" "what" and "Why" ...they are anti semitic!
or else we all sick and tired of "Your" worthless & fabricated accusations...
you Zionist are in recession now . . .and we are NOT buying your anti semitic accusations anymore! Sorry!
 

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There are many errors in your comments:

You know very well that he was NOT elected by Iranian people. As I said before (and you chose to ignore it), the election was rigged as hundreds of well qualified candidates were disqualified and he was one of the few servants who pass the ultimate betrayal test. Besides, the election itself was rigged as millions of Iranians boycotted the election and those who voted (out of fear) were intimidated at the ballot boxes.

Having a PhD means nothing. It is the size of the heart and brain that matters and he has none. You should know better that in post Islamic Iran (after 1979) winning a scholarship is NOT a measure of knowledge or intelligence or (his fake) grades but a measure of how loyal a person is to the regime of apes in other words how much a person is ready to sell his soul and his country and his people to the hated regime. So, if he won scholarship, that is how he won it.

Yes I was in high school too one day and I studied hard to get all those 19’s and 20’s grades not by taking part in pro regime demos or selling my soul as Ahmadinejad has done.

And what is so beautiful about Tehran!!!!. The populated air that the rate of heart disease and cancer is the highest in the world or the very heavy traffic jam. A few parks don’t make a city beautiful. Tehran was beautiful when Persian girls wearing mini skirts were walking down Pahlavi Avenue and Shah Reza and what used to be a city full of life in the 1970’s not now which is a plagued city taken over by apes. It used to be a free city with lots of parks and free people enjoying life but what is it now. You go to jail for having a private party at your own home or if you are a woman and refuse to wear a hejab. This is fascism of the wosrt kind in this islamic republic.

I believe that Iran will never be a great country for as long as it is ruled by the apes. The first and foremost objective of every Iranian should be to help to remove these apes from power. End the plagued fascist Islamic republic and bring a free elections to Iran when Iranians can vote the government that they want. I believe that on the contrary, you by glorifying the regime by calling this servant a president and cut and pasting his speeches (which I believe you should have the freedom of doing so if you want) are doing a lot more harm than good to our country and our suffering nation. I will continue as I have been doing to expose these criminals in any way that I can as this is a free country and will not deter by your comments. I think that everyone that knows me here on this board also knows that that I am not a Zionist. True I blame arabs for our problems (and US) but this is out of nationalism and the time that you spend defending Palestinians, if you spend half of that defending your own people suffering under mullahs will be time better invested. We have suffered a lot more by arabs than Israelis. Just read the history of your country over the past 15 centuries, especially past 30 years (but again it is your choice).
No I did not ignore anything.. the election was democratic as much as it could get..considering the context under which the rules were set
Those candidates who were vetted out were dropped off because they did not qualify.. they were not Islamic enough..whatever that means!
FYI, the vetting committee even disqualified the eldest son of Imam Khomeini . . how would that be...?!
they vetted him out..by going around and asking his neighbors, if he went to mosque on a regular basis or not, or if he ever shaved off his beard...that kind of BS
Never the less... those are rules....rules are not to be broken...every society has its laws and norms... you don't like it, well , , it doesn't mean you can break it but help to change it though legal process and over time... as I said let us not confuse the issues...here!

As for defending the regime or exposing it... all the power to you..
you will never see me.. arguing with you when you state your opinion, positive or negative... so be it!
but the president is the president, like it or not, just as Bush was the president of USA, so as he is president of Iran... so lets have some respect (not for him personally but for the nation of Iran that he formally represent)

So.. what I object... is biased views.. errors in judgment and confused issues ...

As for the rest, well . . .I however.. rather to talk and promote the goodness of my country where, in the land that majority know nothing about but politically charged, negative propaganda...

Iranians are very resolute and resourceful . . . they will fix there own problem in their own good time and don't need help or negative propaganda, constantly insulting her soul.. and as far as I am concerned, here or anywhere else, I will not allow it even for an inch!
 
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Don't know about you, but my definition of insanity is:

Doing the same thing over and over again, (cut and paste) and expecting different results.
Yes, that could be directed to a certain number of Terb posters.
 

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Well obviously there is a big gap between our views and I don't see any possibilty that we could agree on many issues relating to the regime of apes (in my view Islamic republic is illegitimate and its unelected leaders are criminals and deserve no respect from anyone). But this is the good thing about democracy. We can express our views freely without being prosecuted and we are both mature enough to understand that it is normal to differ and respect each other's views and acknowledge our mutual right to express them.
You keep using this term "apes"

What exactly do you mean ?...is it because Ahmadi does not look like a handsome white Persian guy like yourself?;)
or have you already bought into the Zionist propaganda,the movie 300, showing Xerxes II as a one big ugly-colored-ape look a like monster!
 

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Pitching and Catching

I wonder who pitches and who catches when those 2 great leaders play butt cowboy with each other. Ahminejad definitely has the look of a catcher in his eye but I haven't seen the other boobs face. Mahmoud definitely takes it up the butt.
 

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persis said:
"different anti semitic BS"

What kind of anti semitic is that...anti semitic this, anti semitic that..all
BS BS BS...
you want to use this now old tried and useless tactic to silence people from criticizing Zionist for their crimes..then you better start showing proof as "when" "what" and "Why" ...they are anti semitic!
or else we all sick and tired of "Your" worthless & fabricated accusations...
you Zionist are in recession now . . .and we are NOT buying your anti semitic accusations anymore! Sorry!
I'm not a Zionist or anti semitic, an independent observer that realizes there is fault on both sides of extremists, but I also dislike morons like you, and gryff, who only have a ferocious bias for one side, target Israel only, and can't admit fault on both sides. Thus I have no tolerance for your bullshit and don't believe anything you post. You think that by scouring the internet so you can cut and paste items and links, many times from biased sources, would sway opinion, unfortunately you never will, it's because you are so one sided you've lost all credibility. So you just keep posting, and I'll keep ignoring.
 

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Iran urged to replace PG trade with Turkey
An Iranian official suggests that the country should import its European goods via Turkey in place of the Persian Gulf countries.

The President of Iran's Chamber of Commerce, Mohammad Nahavandian said that Tehran and Ankara can pave the ground for such a move, as their political relations have improved considerably.

"The global economic downturn has created many problems for all the world's countries, but we should use the situation in the best possible way," Nahavandian said in a meeting in Tehran with the Turkish State Minister for Foreign Commerce, Kursad Tuzmen.

He noted that there is an imbalance between Iranian imports and exports through some Persian Gulf countries. "If we change the trade corridor for the European goods we import, from the Persian Gulf to Turkey, we would see a trade balance," he said.

Iran currently enjoys a considerable amount of trade with the Persian Gulf countries, especially the UAE.

Iran was the most important export destination last year from the UAE's main free zone in Dubai with a commerce value of Dh18.6b. The next most important export partner was Saudi Arabia, which received Dh12.8b, followed by India at Dh12b.

More than 10,000 Iranian firms, according to the Iranian Business Council in Dubai, have investments in the UAE.

Iranians have recently been treated in a humiliating way by some of these trade partners.

An Iranian MP announced earlier that Iran has decided to discontinue the transfer of its investment funds to the UAE and readdress its capital to Turkey, following the fingerprinting of its citizens by the Persian Gulf state.

"Fingerprinting of UAE citizens and citizens of any other country which humiliates Iranians must continue vigorously," Javad Karimi Ghoddousi, a member of Iran's Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission said.

In addition, Iran's Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani Wednesday urged the UAE to reconsider its attitude regarding the fingerprinting of Iranians entering the country.

"The UAE should know that the Parliament's demand about their attitude is serious," Larijani said, adding that the Iranian lawmakers are chagrined when observing the UAE's attitude toward Iranian citizens, while the two countries have a large volume of trade, FARS news agency reported.
 
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