Temporary layoff question

[dsc]

I was recently put on temporary layoff from my employer of 10 years (automotive). They are sending out a ROE and gave us instructions to file a claim with EI. The company says the plan is to go back to work in mid April, but they added that we are to say "NO" when the EI (website) asks if we have returned to regular full time employment.
I have not collected EI in my 25 years of working. I understand that by filing it starts my 2 week waiting period. But what happens if this goes from temporary to permament layoff, does the 8 weeks in lieu of notice still apply? There was packages given out in the first rounds of reductions, now it seems this is a way of further reductions without paying out. Our HR has no clue when it comes to answering these questions, they just say things will eventually get better.

 

[Disturbia]

I am sincerely sorry to hear about this. I wish you find a better job with more $$ very soon. For now, just think of this as a vacation and enjoy it to its fullest.

Back to your post, I'd suggest you contact EI directly and ask them whatever you need to know.

That stupid 2 weeks waiting period, hopefully, should go away as I heard. Not sure how long it would take them to approve it.

Hopefully not but if this becomes permanent layoff, the answer is yes. I believe there has to be at least 6 months or so delay between each time people can apply for EI. Ask them to make sure.

Also, EI folks prefer face to face talk not phone calls, from what I hear.

Good luck

 

[blackmoon69]

EI was establish to help the people who lost there job. but the way i see it you will first starve and go homeless before they pay you.

 

[Keebler Elf]

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/menu/eihome.shtml

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/guide/guide_15.html

 

[TheNiteHwk]

They are saying that when you return to work in April it's may be only temp... not a full time perm return. So therefore you should answer NO to that question that way EI keeps your file/claim open. If they close your file/claim because you have returned to full time perm job then you will have to start from zero all over again and go through waiting period etc when you get laid off again or if laid off again. You are allowed to work and collect benefits while on EI, just as long as you inform them of your hrs worked and $$ earned. Then they will deduct from your benefits payout accordingly... but still keep your file/claim open and active.

 

[TheNiteHwk]

EI was establish to help the people who lost there job. but the way i see it you will first starve and go homeless before they pay you.

I understand how you feel, but not entirely true.

My experience has been it really depends on who your worker is (their attitudes) and how informed you are of your rights etc.

Last time I was on EI they even back paid me three whole months after I told them I applied late because I was living off my savings for three months and did not think I would qualify with so much money in the bank.

Like I say it depends on who you are dealing with.

My experience was that it seemed to me some were a bit 'old school' as I call them. They seem to more concerned with how to not qualify you and make it as hard on you as possible. Really pissed them off when you tell them you read the website and you know what you are entitled too. Better to be assertive then aggressive with them though.

Younger ones I found are more attuned to helping you out as much as they can and making sure you get everything you should be and more if possible.

 

[fuji]

They are saying that when you return to work in April it's may be only temp...

That's now how I read his post. They are saying they hope he will return permanently in April but they aren't promising anything. More than likely they have no intention of rehiring him in April and they're just trying to delay having to pay out full severance.

In any case he's not working right now and therefore should put down "NO", he has not (yet) returned to full time employment. He may never return, and they may yet pay out severance.

To the OP: Sorry about your loss, that sucks. I would not count on this job coming back and would immediately begin a major job search. If they offer you a position in April I would take it--and continue the job search.

 

[dsc]

To the OP: Sorry about your loss, that sucks. I would not count on this job coming back and would immediately begin a major job search. If they offer you a position in April I would take it--and continue the job search.

Thanks for all the information.
Yes, I already started a job search. Was preparing since last summer when the warning signs started. If we are called back in April, as promised, I intend on continuing to search.