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Technically we are all criminals now

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stinkynuts

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Anytime we purchase sexual services, we will be committing a crime, and face prosecution. Before C36, I did feel a bit guilty about hobbying. I felt that I was doing something slightly immoral, taking advantage of women, exposing myself to disease, and doing something that society frowned upon. Now that I am being labeled a criminal each time I committ an act, I think it only worsens my guilt.
 

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I have been called worse...you forgot to add loser to that list...thank you.

Anytime we purchase sexual services, we will be committing a crime, and face prosecution. Before C36, I did feel a bit guilty about hobbying. I felt that I was doing something slightly immoral, taking advantage of women, exposing myself to disease, and doing something that society frowned upon. Now that I am being labeled a criminal each time I committ an act, I think it only worsens my guilt.
 

asterwald

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So you are going to let corrupt politicians and sociopath lawyers tell you that you are immoral?

Taking advantage of women? Are they not earning more than what they would given their skillset in the free market?
 

VirginJohn

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Anytime we purchase sexual services, we will be committing a crime, and face prosecution. Before C36, I did feel a bit guilty about hobbying. I felt that I was doing something slightly immoral, taking advantage of women, exposing myself to disease, and doing something that society frowned upon. Now that I am being labeled a criminal each time I committ an act, I think it only worsens my guilt.
Laws like this may encourage people to actually come out of the woodwork and actually try this out while it's still legal for one last month, whereas, they may have procrastinated to their grave otherwise. Therefore, an in an indirect sense, now C-36 will encourage allot of last minute shoppers to panic buy.
 

explorerzip

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I think you have to look at things in shades of grey vs black and white. It is true that there are women and girls being "taken advantaged of" by being coerced into this industry without a way out with their personal safety under threat. There are also many women that are making an honest living in this industry and love the work. Unfortunately, it is hard to know which ladies are truly being taken advantaged of.

Technically, there are lots of things you can do that would make you a "criminal."
 

squeezer

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Well made statement so here you are with a great incentive to quit easy with less pain.

Indeed there are many (not sure what percentage) who are coerced/forced/trafficked/underage and it is impossible to screen out with 100% accuracy. So with all the harms that bill C36 will be causing to both sex workers and hobbyists (and I believe I listed half a dozen major harms in an earlier post a couple of days ago) there is also a good side to it (we have to be fair about it) that it will cause a real dent in demand and once demand goes down so will be pimping/forcing/coercion/trafficking so less victims as well.
I disagree with you on your last statement. C36 actually reinforces the need for pimps in the shadows as liaisons , more violent to ensure the ladies don't speak up, underground means more criminal activity as opposed to decriminalization and stigma free etc..... There is no good coming from this bill whatsoever.
 

explorerzip

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Well made statement so here you are with a great incentive to quit easy with less pain.

Indeed there are many (not sure what percentage) who are coerced/forced/trafficked/underage and it is impossible to screen out with 100% accuracy. So with all the harms that bill C36 will be causing to both sex workers and hobbyists (and I believe I listed half a dozen major harms in an earlier post a couple of days ago) there is also a good side to it (we have to be fair about it) that it will cause a real dent in demand and once demand goes down so will be pimping/forcing/coercion/trafficking so less victims as well.
I'm wondering if decreasing demand might lead to more undesirable types coming out of the wood work. Maybe some kind of cheap thrill of doing something illegal and potentially trying to harm a lady.
 

DB123

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Criminal? Please...I'm just a dude that likes sex with beautiful women
 

shakenbake

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Well made statement so here you are with a great incentive to quit easy with less pain.

Indeed there are many (not sure what percentage) who are coerced/forced/trafficked/underage and it is impossible to screen out with 100% accuracy. So with all the harms that bill C36 will be causing to both sex workers and hobbyists (and I believe I listed half a dozen major harms in an earlier post a couple of days ago) there is also a good side to it (we have to be fair about it) that it will cause a real dent in demand and once demand goes down so will be pimping/forcing/coercion/trafficking so less victims as well.
Did you ever hear about Prohibition and how it reduced the demand for alcohol? yeah, right. Just as in Prohibition caused an increase in organised crime, C-36 will do the same with the sex industry; bring more organised crime, and thus negate the purported purpose of the 'lovely' legislation by the injustice minister and his evangelical hell hounds.
 

Viggo Rasmussen

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Incalls were illegal, so we've been associating with criminals for a long time.

Now we're the criminals, it only means we have to continue being discreet and careful.
 

squeezer

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The other big downside of this law is now we as the clients were actually to come across a minor or a trafficked person (which in all my years of hobbying I've yet to do so) how can we possibly call it in with Bill C36 automatically making criminals out of the possible eyes and ears of LE.
 

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No matter what they do, they will never eliminate Prostitution.
The only thing C36 will end up doing, when law, will be to eliminate the civil way (such as our own) of approaching this industry and exacerbating the true evils that lurk and are waiting for this to happen.
Why you ask, because there will always be a demand, no matter what the Government do or say. Regulate it, don't try to eliminate it. Our politicians are living in a pipe dream...
But their motivation is really not, for the good of the people, but more so for votes.
Disgusting !!!
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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Any normal people puking at all this drivel right now.

I don't have to open these threads
I don't have to open these threads
I don't have to open these threads.

Fuck! DB you are right, doesn't work worth shit.

I am glad for one thing I have to say, it really shows which men are really men. Some of this sappy shit is to much even more estrogen levels.
 
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YUP .... Some men are big DRAMA KINGS!!! Orr they have total lack of understanding on HOW our laws are enforced ....or NOT enforced ..... Like the Bawdy House laws .. ALL these guys have been commiting a crime .... going to an incall. ..... AND WHAT???? Nothing happens .... SOOOOO CHILL OUT GUYS!! :p
 

thumper18474

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REALLY?
Some of us have to gauge the risk vs reward
even a hint of criminal activity no matter how rediculous or unconstitutional can result in immediate termination from our employer..and yes Im in that category.....not to mention the S/O factor..i dont relish doing the perp walk anymore than anyone else but i have taken steps to minimize that risk as much as i can

To minimize and trivialize what some guys are thinking/doing is not your place.
Let them decide without someone coming on here and giving them the gears FFS



Any normal people puking at all this drivel right now.

I don't have to open these threads
I don't have to open these threads
I don't have to open these threads.

Fuck! DB you are right, doesn't work worth shit.

I am glad for one thing I have to say, it really shows which men are really men. Some of this sappy shit is to much even more estrogen levels.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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REALLY?
Some of us have to gauge the risk vs reward
even a hint of criminal activity no matter how rediculous or unconstitutional can result in immediate termination from our employer..and yes Im in that category.....not to mention the S/O factor..i dont relish doing the perp walk anymore than anyone else but i have taken steps to minimize that risk as much as i can

To minimize and trivialize what some guys are thinking/doing is not your place.
Let them decide without someone coming on here and giving them the gears FFS

It has been illegal for how long now, but now that the focus of the criminal element is on men the situation now calls for what? Understanding? Sympathy? Give me a fucking break.

Sorry I get it, it sucks. Welcome to the world that women have had this whole time. You may, and I strongly say MAY have to do a prep walk if you are dumb enough to not do some serious due diligence before booking, women not only had to deal with that, but being raped, robbed, and even killed based on the laws before. Not to mention, yes - losing other jobs that they worked while being a sex worker. Yes - losing grants and scholarships while working as a sex worker, and the big one - YES - losing their kids to the system for being a sex worker. Sorry but I think of those women and how they still fought and did want they could with the shit they had to deal with without whining "oh I can't do this anymore because the big bad G-man said so." So ya, If some pussy ass men can't handle it, then get the fuck out of the game. That is not minimizing and trivializing, that is simple fact.

Besides, we all know you are not stopping personally, so your personal point is moot and you are simply talking for the sake of men you don't even know because I am the big bad bitch who called like it is.
 

thumper18474

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We all know how it's been for women..did I say anything to the contrary?

You come on here and call the guys pussies cus now they are in the same boat that women were in??
and as far as being beaten..Robbed. ..and possibly killed...you don't think we run that risk too?!! With psychos and pimps!!
Yes we chose to be involved in this biz. Just as the ladies did and I applaud those who survived in the biz ...how dare you come on here and chastise those who make the choice to remove themselves from The possible legal side of this rediculous law
 
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