Students Yelled at Me. I’m Fine. All Americans should defend campus protesters.

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The last election was a pretty strong demonstration that vibes dominates to an even higher amount than I had been willing to accept.
Like most people who take politics seriously, I think policy is important.
I acknowledged that vibes and messaging and propaganda were powerful, but policy was still a big deal.

That's been pretty soundly crushed now.

The new media landscape makes vibes absolutely dominant.

It sucks, but until media literacy calibrated to the new paradigm is developed, it's going to be very bad.

Think about it this way - it took Trump almost blowing shit up completely with these tariffs to get through to people and even with that, he is still not much off his previous highs on approval.

Ok, that sounds more like a reasonable argument to back up your statement.

Its not unreasonable to argue that Trudeau was taken down by SM campaigns (which were largely foreign funded) combined with attacks by american owned Canadian media. Those attacks left PeePee in the lead, where he focused more on new outfits and 'lightning catcher' type videos.
trump's election and attacks on Canada created a patriotic (not to be confused with nationalist) response that made PeePee's stance as little trump a sudden and massive weakness. Carney's steadfast banker role became the favoured response to the first real threat to the country in a very long time.

But then you have to provide your thesis of where the vibes went wrong with Harris, who first had mass support (me included). Considering how weak her opponent was, what do you think she did that destroyed those vibes?

I'm sticking with my thesis and if we're changing the terms to vibe, I'm saying her vibe was destroyed on Aug 8 with her 'I'm speaking' line.

'I'm speaking now': Harris rebukes Gaza protesters

This and a key advisor’s tweet this morning suggest her differences with Biden on Israel may be more style than substance

responsiblestatecraft.org

Let's hear your thesis on where her vibe was killed.

Quincy Institute's claim that Israel counted on being stopped but that didn't happen? (apparently sourced to The Economist)
Yes.
Their claim that the US has always been dictated by the arms industry, even though they stopped Israel in the past, and no acknowledgement that therefore something must have changed in either Israel, the arms industry, or the United States?
Yes. (As in, I'd really like them to explore that idea and explain the contradiction instead of just blowing right past it.)

I think if you wanted, you could go back through the history of Israeli attacks on Gaza and find the US shutting it down pretty consistently. The idea that its the arms industry instead of the lobby would need some serious support to convince me as well.

Exactly the question.
If this has always been the US position (self-contradictory as it is described in her paper) then what changed?
Of course, the article isn't about that, so it just becomes a thrown off statement without being explored.

Negroponte but within reason. US policy has always to been to back Israeli actions but to limit them to minimize global and local outrage.
Yes, the big question is what changed and why Biden and then Harris took the gloves off. Was this Biden's self declare 'I'm a zionist' mentality, was it messaging from Netanyahu himself or was it pressure from their inner cabinet/AIPAC or AIPAC handlers? Good questions.

Oh.
You think it matters when it is your vote.
Even though you will be returning a Genocide government to power - which you seem very happy about.

Carney's position has been vague. He was caught agreeing it was genocide then backtracked. He's stated on #cinqchefs that Palestinians have the right to their territory, then agreed there should be a two state solution but was against France recognizing the second of those two states. Likely I'll vote NDP, a lib/ndp minority has always been my preference here.

It wasn't going to work.
They weren't going to change this in one election, especially with a track record like many of the people pushing for this had of not voting anyway and not accepting yes for an answer.
This is the kind of thing that takes years to change.

Oh, you mean like having them lose the election over the issue?

Watching you acknowledge your choice to become a ripper will be interesting.

Democracy and the legal system only work as long as the masses perceive them to be fair. Lets hope we can weave repairs and its not necessary.

You have different aims for what happens after, for sure.
For instance, the Middle East policy you each want to arise from the ashes is different.

Gaza is ashes already.

Stopping Israel before the remaining 1.6 million or so still living are killed is primary.

 

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The last election was a pretty strong demonstration that vibes dominates to an even higher amount than I had been willing to accept.
Like most people who take politics seriously, I think policy is important.
I acknowledged that vibes and messaging and propaganda were powerful, but policy was still a big deal.

That's been pretty soundly crushed now.

The new media landscape makes vibes absolutely dominant.

It sucks, but until media literacy calibrated to the new paradigm is developed, it's going to be very bad.

Think about it this way - it took Trump almost blowing shit up completely with these tariffs to get through to people and even with that, he is still not much off his previous highs on approval.

AOC and Bernie appear to be the vibe side of the dems.
And stil...

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