SPs that ask for referrals

[viciouscycle]

I was recently in the U.S. and looked into the local hobbying scene. I ended up calling this girl (who provides outcalls to hotels) and told her I was from out of town and staying in a hotel.
She then asked me for a referral (from another SP?), doesn't have to be from a local SP - she said,"She can be from Toronto, I just need to call her to verify that you're not weird".
WTF?
Did this happen to anyone else before?
One of my many questions is:
I called her at about 11:30pm, so she was going to call (long distance) to T.O. at that time to ask another SP about me? If the other SP even remember me!
Very strange.
Needless to say there was no need to keep talking, I hung up and ended up going to sleep.

 

[papasmerf]

you should have asked her for 3 verifiable client references as well as remind her that upon arrival she would be required to show you state issued ID to prove her age.

 

[David Beckham 23]

Happen to me when I was in the US a few months ago.She also wanted a business number.

I passed.

 

[LordLoki]

Amazon Woman asks for refrence in Hamilton

 

[S.C. Joe]

Think she might be checking to see if your a cop or one of those goody-goody guys trying to clean up the world.

You should not have hung up but explain to her that you just know them by a first name and you don't think she waste a long distance phone to help you get laid.

Most likely she would have wanted more $$$ than you think she was worth so maybe it was good you did not meet but you never know now.

I meet some OK sp's in the USA, believe Canada is a better value but if you are in a big city, they are out there--its too bad you can't relax and need to keep your guard up-both you and her-at all times.

 

[fuji]

It's a crime in NY, she is trying to make sure you are not a cop. No need for that in Toronto.

It's kind of foolish to call SP's in NY and risk jail when you can do it at home legally, if you ask me. It's also more expensive.. what's the point.

 

[Aardvark154]

It's a crime in NY, she is trying to make sure you are not a cop. No need for that in Toronto.

It's kind of foolish to call SP's in NY and risk jail when you can do it at home legally, if you ask me. It's also more expensive.. what's the point.

I say Amen to that.

 

[S.C. Joe]

Well its not a crime to pay the lady for the time she spends with you. Thus the reason you can find escort agencies in a phone book. Even my goody-goody towns phone book has some--but they are based in Detroit.

#1, it will cost you more. 2nd, you might just find girls in their late 20's and older and 3rd you can never never pay for any type of sex, cause you never know if shes a cop. Just because she might be naked does not mean she is "cool"

But how do you think most guys have fun in the USA, we all don't run up to Canada or get married. You just need to be on guard and expect to pay more, thats all.

 

[bangcamaro]

Um, I dunno, I don't have a problem with that. That just means she probably sees less clients, which is a good thing...

But the thing is, is how can an SP from Toronto possibly remember you and give a referral? Weird.

 

[S.C. Joe]

Yeah but for an out of towner asking for a outcall ?

I was told--when I asked an escort how she feels going to a stranger hotel room. Her reply was "if I don't like him, I leave"

 

[smylee52]

Beats me

How do you use someone as a referral when they have no idea what your name is ?
What's to stop someone from researching terb and just picking one of our handles , relate it to a positive review and providing an SP with that handle and the name of the SP in the review .
I understand the ladies wanting to improve the odds in favour of a pleasant and safe encounter but I don't think just providing a referral does that. If there is something my sometimes naive mind isn't grasping I welcome illumination .

 

[S.C. Joe]

I just call a company up and she shows up. Been working pretty good I must say.

But I like sticking with outcalls. Not sure if I feel like going in to a strangers room. How do I check her out? Guess if I was a local I try it but when I have a hotel room why...yes some don't do outcalls but then theres many who do.

 

[fuji]

Well its not a crime to pay the lady for the time she spends with you.

Tell that to all the people who have been busted; or better yet, tell that to the judge. They'll have some way of showing that sex was involved and that you knew that is what you were _really_ paying for, whatever it is you claim. Judges and juries just aren't that easily fooled.

As for the point about NY guys gotta have fun, I agree, prostitution is not going away any time soon. Just seems silly for someone from Toronto visiting NY to take the risk when if they can keep their dick in their pants for a few days or a week or whatever their trip is they can have legal fun when they get home.

For what it's going to cost in NY you can have quite the party when you get home to Toronto. $500 or whatever buys a hotel room and multiple bookings here.

 

[S.C. Joe]

Well we have a USA senator still in office-facing no charges what so ever, that has said he was sorry for seeing escorts.

They can not charge you if you did not break the law...gets a fine line sometimes but its what you say and don't say.

The US senator knows how to speak-so he broke no laws. Hes married too with kids, again he is still even in office down in Washington DC today....nobody can touch him. His name was in a book of a company who is in trouble with the law. Some ladies are getting charged but not him. He did not or make that the police can not prove he paid for sex, just he paid for the lady time. Thats not illegal.


I will agree it costs way more for the same. But if you have $$$$ to spend and know how to speak, you can have fun here.

Its the guys who think they are breaking the law-or who are, that has problems. Having sex with an escort is OK as you as you don't "pay her for the sex"...which is why it cost way more. You need for her to "fell in love with you". If you have $200 to pay her for her time its hard, however if you spend $2,000 for her time with you...oh sure she might start thinking she loves you. And she most likely does.

 

[S.C. Joe]

You see, in a way WE here in the USA have it a bit better than in Canada--if you are rich.

In the USA you are innocent until proven guilty. Thats a big deal because the police needs to prove-in court-you broke a law before you are charged with a crime.

Just being arrest is not being charged, a judge needs to do that. The police HAS to show some prove to the judge.

9 times out of 10 its the persons own words that does it. Which is why the police sometimes shout back at you if they don't like the answer thats given to them.


In Canada, you need to prove your innocent. Thats harder to do...good thing Canada has better laws on most things.

 

[fuji]

Dude, you are innocent until proven guilty in any country with a legal system based on English common law, as both Canada and (most of) the US are.

Your "defense" has not fared so well in reality. I suggest you go do some homework. That's like a mobster saying that he wasn't ordering a hit when he said "take care of him".

The reality is that trials are decided not by logicians or computers but by human beings. If a jury can be persuaded beyond a reasonable doubt that you knew you were paying for sex (from context, etc., if not from words) then they can nail you. Juries do routinely convict and jail people who thought they had cleverly evaded the law by not overtly saying what they really meant.

Your senator friend is a free man for a couple of reasons none of which have anything to do with him knowing what to say. One reason is that phone records and hearsay are not enough to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Who knows if he even had sex with them? You can't even prove he ever actually even met with any of them, only that he made some phone calls.

Of course we all KNOW what he was doing, but there is a difference between knowing and proving.

Another reason is that even in NY the police have better things to do than bust people for prostitution, but every now and then, they DO bust people, set up stings, etc., and when they do the "but but but I didn't actually say sex" defense doesn't fly. If a reasonable person would think the payment was for sex a jury can and will jail you.

Do some homework before you post.

 

[fuji]

Knock what off?

 

[Mongrel4u]

You are correct LL. For my incalls I do ask for references from new clients. Most clients are extremely accommodating and are very understanding. I don't really understand why some people have a problem with this. It's no skin of your nose. All you have to do is provide the name and hopefully a phone number/e-mail link of a provider you've seen recently. I do the "legwork".
If you have nothing to worry about, providing a reference should NOT be a big deal.
As stated in previous posts of mine, if you choose not to provide a reference for whatever reason, you don't see me.
For the wonderful clients who DO provide a good reference, they are amply rewarded!

Diana
xoxo

I understand you wanting to be safe.

But the reason why guys have a "problem" with it is because what you ask for just isnt feasible the vast majority of the time. In order for you to check a reference the SP has to be able to remember you....kinda tough when you see so many guys....this means she would have to have a lot of personal info about you...I dont know too many guys that throw around that kind of info when seeing an SP.

 

[viciouscycle]

I understand you wanting to be safe.

But the reason why guys have a "problem" with it is because what you ask for just isnt feasible the vast majority of the time. In order for you to check a reference the SP has to be able to remember you....kinda tough when you see so many guys....this means she would have to have a lot of personal info about you...I dont know too many guys that throw around that kind of info when seeing an SP.

Exactly. I visit agencies more than indies, and the chances of the phone operator asking or remembering my name is slim.
Further more, it is skin off my nose - my time.
I respect individual's rules and guidelines, but it would have saved a lot of time (mine and hers) if she had put this in her ad, "reference required for first-time customers" - if I had seen that I would have moved right on.

 

[nautilus]

What's the problem? See another girl. 99 % of them don't ask for references. Provide one if you want to see her that badly. Otherwise move on to one of the other thousand or so that advertise in your area.