SP's requesting ID before meeting

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Hello; I have a quick question. A SP has requested a piece of government ID before meeting with me as a screening measure. (She is with Top Drawer Ladies). This makes sense as a measure to protect workers who are meeting strange, potentially dangerous men for the first time. However, I am a little wary about sharing information online for obvious reasons. I do know that TDL has a good reputation, though.

Is that standard practice? Has anyone here offered a photo of a driver's license to a SP--have lots of people? Have you ever had any issue or unintended concequence with doing so?

And does anyone have any tips for balancing the genuine need for SP's to have info about a client with the best practices for me to avoid potential data breaches? Identity theft is a concern with personal info; while DL's aren't a completely free ticket to identity theft, an unfortunate series of events could get such a photo into the wrong hands.

Looking for anyone with experience with this routine so that I may proceed with both her comfort and my safety in mind.
 

kherg007

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TDL did not ask you for ID? How did you get in contact w the lady? Did she ask you when you entered the door? Did you tell the agency? Lots of unanswered questions...

I would never send ID in any form that someone could archive it. Ever. Ok to tell outcall agencies your name so they can ring your hotel room to make sure you're legit. Maybe to flash it to her, but not let it out of your control.
 

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Multiple threads on here about screening by sp’s. It’s all up to your risk tolerance. If you are not worried about giving ID to the girl, and it makes her feel safer, by all means go ahead. If you are worried about privacy issues, then don’t and move on to see someone else. Many girls who screen will have a number of options eg govt ID, linked in profile, etransfer deposit and some references from other sp’s or a TERB handle, if you’ve got some kind of reasonably established track record here. It’s up to you though, if you aren’t comfortable with a situation, there are a lot of other options, and in contrast to what you are describing, most agencies don’t ask for real names/ ID. (May ask for the former if doing outcall to hotel).
 

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Hello; I have a quick question. A SP has requested a piece of government ID before meeting with me as a screening measure. (She is with Top Drawer Ladies). This makes sense as a measure to protect workers who are meeting strange, potentially dangerous men for the first time. However, I am a little wary about sharing information online for obvious reasons. I do know that TDL has a good reputation, though.

Is that standard practice? Has anyone here offered a photo of a driver's license to a SP--have lots of people? Have you ever had any issue or unintended concequence with doing so?
It's a common safety practice, although not universal. Personally, I've sent ID to at least a dozen different providers and never had an issue (using both my driver's license and health card at different times). I've never spent time with someone from TDL so I don't know what their practices involve, but as others have mentioned, if you're booking the provider directly she's probably using her personal screening strategy that makes her feel safe (and complying with it is an excellent way to earn brownie points before the date!).

And does anyone have any tips for balancing the genuine need for SP's to have info about a client with the best practices for me to avoid potential data breaches? Identity theft is a concern with personal info; while DL's aren't a completely free ticket to identity theft, an unfortunate series of events could get such a photo into the wrong hands.
The only real tip relevant to this practice is: do some research to make sure the person you're sending the ID to is real. If they have a website, an active Twitter account, an Onlyfans page, ads on websites like Tryst, a TERB account, etc. they're probably real.

The possibility of "identity theft" is generally an unfounded concern. Providers don't put in the work involved in building their reputation (and maintaining the above-listed forms of social media/advertising) in order to jeopardize all of it with a high-risk, targeted crime perpetrated against a stranger for the benefit of a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. That scenario just doesn't pass the reality test. It just doesn't happen in 99.99% of cases, because for it to happen you'd need to be dealing with someone so unhinged and self-destructive that they would ignore the obvious dangers of doing something wildly dangerous.

Also, as you correctly mention, converting access to an ID into any sort of actual criminal ploy is difficult. At that point we're talking about the kind of scam that's run by longstanding, professional criminals/organizations, not by single individuals working in a completely unrelated occupation.

You'll get some responses in here from chickenshits saying that ID screening is a huge risk, never do it, etc., but you'll quickly notice that what you aren't getting are any credible testimonies about shared ID being used against a client unprovoked. Because, again, that would be an insanely rare situation, involving someone who is so reckless that they're willing to trash months or years of effort and accrued reputation for a small amount of money and a huge amount of potentially life-ruining risk. It takes a great deal of both naivete and paranoia to conceive of that risk as a probable outcome of sending ID, and many clients who would advise you against it are actually more concerned about the possibility of being doxxed to the spouse they're cheating on than they are about the possibility of financial fraud. They frame their fear as the latter because a person who is stolen from is a much more obvious, sympathetic victim than a person who is lying/cheating (although, for the record, blackmailing is probably about as rare/unrealistic as ID theft for all of the reasons listed above -- huge risk for a small payoff).

At the end of the day it comes down to your personal comfort level, and I have no beef with other clients who quietly choose not to take that route. But the loudmouths who lie about it being imminently perilous are always gonna catch smoke from me.
 

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Hello; I have a quick question. A SP has requested a piece of government ID before meeting with me as a screening measure. (She is with Top Drawer Ladies). This makes sense as a measure to protect workers who are meeting strange, potentially dangerous men for the first time. However, I am a little wary about sharing information online for obvious reasons. I do know that TDL has a good reputation, though.

Is that standard practice? Has anyone here offered a photo of a driver's license to a SP--have lots of people? Have you ever had any issue or unintended concequence with doing so?

And does anyone have any tips for balancing the genuine need for SP's to have info about a client with the best practices for me to avoid potential data breaches? Identity theft is a concern with personal info; while DL's aren't a completely free ticket to identity theft, an unfortunate series of events could get such a photo into the wrong hands.

Looking for anyone with experience with this routine so that I may proceed with both her comfort and my safety in mind.
Why does it seem like these questions are part of a sociological study? And it always seems to be a newbie asking these questions. I don’t know about you guys but this handle should be providing value first before asking for value.
 

Scienceb

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Sorry if I posted this is the wrong place.

Thank you to everyone who has been giving good answers here.

I reached out to this SP via the email on her twitter, which I was linked to from the Top Drawer Ladies website. This action was not taken through the agency. She has had a presence on this board and boards similar to it for multiple years and I searched thoroughly for any negative reviews or experiences and could find nothing, but found plenty of good and/or neutral reviews.

I think that those saying that the likelihood of this being some kind of setup or other clandestine move is very unlikely. I will, however, refrain from anything *too* identifying. There would need to be a lot of coordination to set up the amount of false posts about her that I have found.

Just to confirm the consensus here; if the SP is contacted independently, then screening with ID is a fairly common practice, right?
 

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OP - you have to do what you feel comfortable with. That is the bottomline.
Know the risks and manage them for yourself. Research is helpful but only you know your personal situation so only you can personally decide.

Since it is an agency why not book directly through them and avoid the “screening” altogether? Normally I wouldn’t suggest to avoid screening but this is what the agency is for if she is a co-mingled escort.

I know a few indies who screen that way, a lot don’t because with photoshop, I can create you a fake ID with your image in a pic in about 30 mins and it would pass the screening of any women. So personally I don’t take them.

Y"all have no problem broadcasting your private healthinformation relating to covid 19 but you are butt hurt when SPS ask for ID? make that make sense
This is a thread about SPs and screening. There is a whole fucking sub forum dedicated to COVID, keep your bullshit in there and out of serious threads like this.
 
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I would never provide my ID to an escort. Not within my risk tolerance. I wouldn't say asking for government ID is the norm for independent escorts, but it's not infrequent either.
Why don't you book a session with her via the agency, then once she's comfortable with you you can book direct with her without having to put up your ID? Seems the safer course to me.
 

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Don't do it. The only positive outcome is nothing happens. There are many negative outcomes, such as blackmail/extortion or a criminal record which can result in job loss, difficulty obtaining credit, etc. If you are married/common-law there could be a divorce, division of assets. Then there are your children to consider. There are many risks and it takes only 1 shady person to ruin your life.

A lady has the right to do as she chooses and I move on to people or agencies that do not require ID.
 

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More common in US than here, in Asia and Europe they could care less what your name is. Issue here for those that say low risk is that such a statement is wrong - if a person has your ID information (name, address and date of birth) they can apply online for about 18 credit cards in Canada. A social insurance number is not required for credit application and you can indeed refuse to provide it (banks say it is "policy", re: bank policy = bullshit), providing it makes the credit bureau hit easier but if you have been at the same address for five years or more the bureau hit will be just as accurate. As an experiment in grad school I proved this by getting (willingly, the younger grad students are never that bright) other students names, addresses and dates of birth - got a Visa and Mastercard for each, arrived in the mail, gave to volunteers. Trying to fix such an issue with a credit bureau takes roughly 4.9 million years, 63,245 letter, 345,654 emails and likely 3 or 4 news articles. If you want to risk the headache and risk be my guest.
It is true that you don’t have to provide your SIN to anyone other then your employer and the CRA. That is it.

Banks say that because they have to possibly report transactions to the CRA for things like 10K above, blah, blah, blah, which could be true. I don’t know for sure.
 

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Why can't you see her through TDL and avoid the whole ID fiasco? Did you get banned by them or something?
 

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No one is saying that absolutely horrible things can't happen if you provide your ID. I'd still say that in this context providing ID to a reputable escort who's been around for a while is fairly low risk because she'd destroy her business and her reputation if she used the information to harm you. It's a matter of risk tolerance.
This is true. This is usually the sole income for many escorts and there is no point risking all that just to fuck over a person.
 
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There are many risks and it takes only 1 shady person to ruin your life.
It also only takes 1 bad driver to ruin your life.

More common in US than here, in Asia and Europe they could care less what your name is. Issue here for those that say low risk is that such a statement is wrong - if a person has your ID information (name, address and date of birth) they can apply online for about 18 credit cards in Canada. A social insurance number is not required for credit application and you can indeed refuse to provide it (banks say it is "policy", re: bank policy = bullshit), providing it makes the credit bureau hit easier but if you have been at the same address for five years or more the bureau hit will be just as accurate. As an experiment in grad school I proved this by getting (willingly, the younger grad students are never that bright) other students names, addresses and dates of birth - got a Visa and Mastercard for each, arrived in the mail, gave to volunteers. Trying to fix such an issue with a credit bureau takes roughly 4.9 million years, 63,245 letter, 345,654 emails and likely 3 or 4 news articles. If you want to risk the headache to deal with this be my guest, extortion risk is low but again not good to provide someone with the information to do just that.
No, such a statement is not wrong, because such a statement also includes an assessment of how likely it would be for anyone to actually go through the rigmarole of what you described (if what you described is even accurate, which I have doubts about; how many decades old is that grad school anecdote?)

Besides that, your health card doesn't even include an address.
 

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Besides that, your health card doesn't even include an address.
It used to. When they first came out and were switching from the old red and white cards, your address was on the back at the bottom in small print.

I don’t know when it changed but I had mine like that for at least 5 years before I had to renew.
 
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