Speeding USA-Canada

[ruck]

I was caught speeding on my last trip to NY.
Does anyone know if the points and violation information get transfered to Canada?
If they do I'm screwed. Please advise.
Note: Please no armchair lawyers. I need real advice from someone who knows facts, not hearsay.
Cheers.

 

[GIMME]

From my own experience, your points are not affected, but if you don't pay the fine or send the appropriate letter on time, don't bother going to the US because they'll try to take you straight to prison.

BUT, this is from 4 years ago.

 

[rbf]

Last I heard of NY procedure (decades ago) is that they take you before a JP who sets the fine.

How much paperwork is filled out and sent up to the state is up to the JP, the cop and the clerks. If they're too busy to do the extra paperwork, you're in luck this time around

If they're not too busy, you'll hear soon enough from the MOT.

 

[ruck]

Call the ministry of transportation. Or check their website. No need to give you're name for inquiries.

"Demerit Points for Out-of-Province Convictions
Drivers convicted of a driving related offence in the State of New York, the State of Michigan or any Canadian province or territory, will have home jurisdictional penalties such as demerit points and/or suspensions applied to their Ontario driver record as if the offence occurred in Ontario. "


Examples of out-of-province convictions where Ontario demerit points and /or suspensions will be applied include:
Traffic Criminal
Speeding
Fail to obey stop sign
Fail to obey signal light
Fail to stop for school bus
Racing
Fail to remain or return to the scene of a collision
Careless driving
Motor manslaughter
Criminal negligence
Dangerous driving
Failure to remain at scene of a collision
Impaired Driving
Driving while disqualified or prohibited

Translation: You're fucked!!!



http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/index.html

did you get that from the mto? or somewhree else?
Can you provide direct link because I can't find that statement in the link provided. Thanks.

 

[foolnarnd]

Province to State Treaties

Because traffic laws are state level legislation, Ontario has a separate treaty with each state on her borders. Ontario exchanges data electronically with all jurisdictions that it has treaties with.

As an example, I had an impressive speeding ticket in Connecticut a few years back and I paid it in full immediately. No points ever showed on my driving record however as Ontario and Connecticut didn't have a treaty at that time.

Beyond those states on our borders, Ontario has selected treaties with other states where Ontario drivers frequent.

Best of luck with your problem.

 

[Meister]

I've had several tickets all over the US in the last 10 years, bad me. Never paid, never sent the letter. Strangely enough I cross the border about once a month with no consequences. I think one day they will throw me in jail for a while and I'll find out what real justice will be like.

 

[ham2004]

New York has reciprocity with Ontario

I checked with a friend of mine with the OPP, he confirms that reciprocity exists between Ontario and New York State.

Good news is it takes up to a year for the offence to get on your driving record, bad news it takes up to a year to get on your driving record.

All out of country offences stay on your record for 3 years from date of notification, not date of conviction. So if it doesn't show up for 18 months after you paid the fine, the clock starts then. Insurance companies have access only once a year to your driving record, same as 407ETR, they can not constantly update their records.

 

[goodtime]

Not for speeding

Paul, only 'dangerous moving violation', if you > double speed limit perhaps, not for general speeding.

Ruck, from personal experience from, let's just say more than once. If you don't pay it, it shows up on MTO and prevent you from renewal.

Mail back stub to appeal or call for court date, then reschedule more than once. Eventually lost in the system and drop from their out-dated, especially you're out-of-state system.

I went to court at Pembroke/Clarence off I-90, lots of traps near rest stop areas was eventually dropped after several reschedules with trooper and I failed to attend.

There're # of weblinks on inaccuracy of radar and inproper use of it, if you're want to challenge it from that angle.

Another trooper hotspot is around Watertown for those driving I-81 cooridor.
So you're not screw.

 

[ruck]

I checked with a friend of mine with the OPP, he confirms that reciprocity exists between Ontario and New York State.

Good news is it takes up to a year for the offence to get on your driving record, bad news it takes up to a year to get on your driving record.

All out of country offences stay on your record for 3 years from date of notification, not date of conviction. So if it doesn't show up for 18 months after you paid the fine, the clock starts then. Insurance companies have access only once a year to your driving record, same as 407ETR, they can not constantly update their records.

Well lets hope it takes a year. If the info comes over too soon, I'm screwed big time. Grrrr

 

[goodtime]

I checked with a friend of mine with the OPP, he confirms that reciprocity exists between Ontario and New York State.

Good news is it takes up to a year for the offence to get on your driving record, bad news it takes up to a year to get on your driving record.

All out of country offences stay on your record for 3 years from date of notification, not date of conviction. So if it doesn't show up for 18 months after you paid the fine, the clock starts then. Insurance companies have access only once a year to your driving record, same as 407ETR, they can not constantly update their records.

True, a bit more than 1 yr to cycle thru NY DMV systems to MTO system to show. Then again, MTO couldn't tell me what the 'violation' were. Old city hall tells me they don't keep record of the out-of-town violation, just that I had an outstanding ticket. Faxed request to NY DMV to reveal it was for ticket dropped from court challenge. The paperwork was enough to cleanup MTO record. No sign of it on insurance.

 

[WhOiSyOdAdDy?]

Its funny, if I get a ticket for speeding in WA, it shows up on my record (but will not affect insurance rates as the insurance company here only looks at experience and claim history)... but if I am speeding in AB, there is no recprocity agreement.

 

[LivinLarge]

I live in New York and have gotten numerous speeding tickets in Quebec and Ontario over the years... I paid the fines, but they never showed up on my NYS driving record.

 

[Stymie]

http://www.speedtrap.org/index.html