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Vinson

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Europe is tired of these barberians, this is why they're turning to the right.

Spaniards are outraged by a brutal murder in Gata de Gorgos, near Alicante 3 Moroccan asylum seekers are arrested for beating 39-year-old David Lledo to death with baseball bats after he stopped them from sexually harassing young women in the village

 

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Europe is tired of these barberians, this is why they're turning to the right.

Spaniards are outraged by a brutal murder in Gata de Gorgos, near Alicante 3 Moroccan asylum seekers are arrested for beating 39-year-old David Lledo to death with baseball bats after he stopped them from sexually harassing young women in the village

And soon to be happening in a neighbourhood near you.
 

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The Gov need to do a better job in filtering out these barbarians. They come here as asylum seekers and many can't integrate in a Western society.
They don't filter them out. That's the problem. They show up at the border, give a bullshit story and free to go. Immigration board doesn't look at their file for months and then it's too late.
 
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They don't filter them out. That's the problem. They show up at the border, give a bullshit story and free to go. Immigration board doesn't look at their file for months and then it's too late.
I know just take a look at some of the posters here in the politics forum
 
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And yet who was charged for terrorism lately?
You're still stuck on a old story. Of all guys you're the top Islamic Terrorist supporter on Terb.

Since you bring up Canada:

Ontario's highest court has upheld the conviction and life sentence of one of the two men found guilty of terrorism charges in a plot to derail a passenger train between Canada and the U.S.

Raed Jaser had challenged the outcome of the 2015 trial on several grounds, including that his case should have been severed from that of his co-accused, Chiheb Esseghaier — something he requested twice, unsuccessfully.

Esseghaier, who was self-represented, refused to meaningfully participate in the court proceedings related to the trial, saying he would only be judged by the Qur'an, and had several outbursts in court, including one where he spat at lawyers and threw a cup of water.

Jaser argued on appeal that the trial judge's refusal to grant him a separate trial compromised the fairness of the proceedings.

In a unanimous ruling released Wednesday, the Court of Appeal for Ontario said the trial judge made reasonable and legally correct decisions on the issue, and going ahead with a joint trial "did not result in an injustice."

"It must be emphasized that the trial judge was confronted with an uncommon severance scenario. The more common situation involves accused persons who are adverse in interest on factual or legal issues, whereas this was a case of a disruptive co-accused."

Jaser argued case should have been a mistrial
Justice J. Michal Fairburn wrote on behalf of the three-judge panel.

Having spent many hours talking to Esseghaier during the court process, the trial judge was in the best position to assess the situation as well as "the feasibility of the steps he took to preserve trial fairness," and deference to his discretion is important, Fairburn wrote.

This was a long, complex, and unique trial. It would have been a challenge for any trial judge to maintain the fairness of the proceedings for all concerned — both the two accused and the community, represented by the prosecution," she wrote. "The trial judge managed to maintain that balance."

Jaser also argued the trial judge erred in assessing Esseghaier's fitness for sentencing, and should instead have found Esseghaier unfit and declared a mistrial for both of them.

The issue arose months after the jury delivered its verdict but before sentencing, according to the court ruling. The lawyer appointed by the court to assist Esseghaier requested a psychiatric evaluation to help with sentencing, the document said.

The psychiatrist's report went beyond a psychiatric diagnosis and suggested Esseghaier was not fit to go through the proceedings, the ruling said. The judge then ordered a second assessment that contradicted the first on the matter of fitness, it said.

The judge accepted the second opinion and continued with the sentencing process, the document said.

Unfit status would have likely meant sentence delay: panel
At the time, the judge noted that no one, including Jaser's lawyers, had raised any concerns over Esseghaier's fitness before the first psychiatric report, it said. He also found there were a number of flaws in the first report, it said.

Even if he had found Esseghaier unfit, the likely outcome would have been a delay in sentencing, not a mistrial, the panel said.

"Once a jury has returned its verdict, a mistrial can be declared in only highly restricted circumstances," Fairburn wrote.

In challenging his sentence, Jaser argued the trial judge didn't take into account the role of an undercover FBI agent in fuelling the conspiracy. Without the agent's "active encouragement," he argued, it's likely the plan wouldn't have come together.

The appeal court said it couldn't accept that argument based on the judge's findings that the pair had already come up with a plan involving multiple terrorist acts by the time they were introduced to the agent.

"On this view of the evidence, nothing (the agent) did could possibly have mitigated the culpability of Mr. Jaser for having entered into an agreement to commit mass murder," the appeal court said.

Appeal court has weighed in twice on case
This is the second time the Appeal Court has weighed in on Jaser and Esseghaier's case.

They were found guilty in 2015 on a total of eight terror-related charges between them. They were sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole until 2023.

Jaser and Esseghaier were granted a new trial in 2019 after the Appeal Court found the jury that convicted them was improperly selected.

However, the Supreme Court of Canada later ruled the pair had received a fair trial despite the error, sending the case back to the provincial Appeal Court to hear their challenges on other grounds.

Esseghaier eventually gave up his appeal of his conviction, but Jaser proceeded with his and further sought leave to appeal his sentence. The appeal court gave him leave to appeal his sentence but ultimately rejected the challenge.

 
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You're still stuck on a old story. Of all guys you're the top Islamic Terrorist supporter on Terb.
Nah, now you're working in tandem with the zionists and their genocide.
I'm calling for equal rights and the end of racist shite like apartheid and genocide.

You're stuck in that 19th century view of the world.
 

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Nah, now you're working in tandem with the zionists and their genocide.
I'm calling for equal rights and the end of racist shite like apartheid and genocide.

You're stuck in that 19th century view of the world.
Never mentioned anything about zionists, You're trolling as usual.
 

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You're in the Jewish conspiracy theory, demonizing Jews/christians/Whites.

You do it every day, all day on Terb. Everyone knows.
Nah, I stand with moral Jews against the genocide, groups like IfNotNow and IJVCanada.
I think all religions are equally stupid, but ones that make people think that genocide or stupid shite like that is ok are particularly special.
Is your hate based on some message from some invisible person in the sky or just because you don't like Muslims?
 
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Nah, I stand with moral Jews against the genocide, groups like IfNotNow and IJVCanada.
I think all religions are equally stupid, but ones that make people think that genocide or stupid shite like that is ok are particularly special.
Is your hate based on some message from some invisible person in the sky or just because you don't like Muslims?
Nah, you support Islamic terrorists and spend most of the day on Terb demonizing Jews/Christians/whites. You should get a life or accept we're not going to implement Sharia and go to a country more suitable for you, like Iran or Afghanistan.
 
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Nah, you support Islamic terrorists and spend most of the day on Terb demonizing Jews/Christians/whites. You should get a life or accept we're not going to implement Sharia and go to a country more suitable for you, like Iran or Afghanistan.
What a weird post.

I argue for the rule of law and against religious types having any control.
Meanwhile, the great replacement/incel/right winger types are the ones trying take other people's freedoms away.

 

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I love how people bitch and complain when men don't step in to stop wrongness.

Fuck that, I am not taking a beating to help someone who in any other situation would look down on me. Hell I wouldn't do it otherwise either.
Or worse you get involved and the girl turns on you for hurting "her man" and testifies in court that you are the aggressor and you get butt fucked in prison.

Meh, if a woman is attacks, she can wait for a bear to come along and help her.

Ditto for helping dudes or kids also, I am not taking a beating for anyone, fuck that noise.
 

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Nah, you support Islamic terrorists and spend most of the day on Terb demonizing Jews/Christians/whites. You should get a life or accept we're not going to implement Sharia and go to a country more suitable for you, like Iran or Afghanistan.
Considering his oratory and rheteric, I am sure he would be very happy living in Oceania, get a nice apartment in Airstrip One, get a job with and spin lies and bullshit for the Ministry of Truth or maybe the Thought Police. He would really enjoy Hate Week and the daily 2 minutes of hate and is economically illiterate enough to never question Ingsoc no matter how obvious it's failings would be.
 
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Considering his oratory and rheteric, I am sure he would be very happy living in Oceania, get a nice apartment in Airstrip One, get a job with and spin lies and bullshit for the Ministry of Truth or maybe the Thought Police. He would really enjoy Hate Week and the daily 2 minutes of hate and is economically illiterate enough to never question Ingsoc no matter how obvious it's failings would be.
Are you describing the new paradise promised by a rump dictatorship?

I'm worried about the country broadly if we put someone in power who is openly avowing that he plans to build camps to hold millions of people, and to 'root out' what he's described in subhuman terms as his 'enemy from within. Again, history is helpful here. He's not joking when he says this stuff, and we've seen what happens when people take power proclaiming that kind of agenda. I think there's a little bit of head-in-the-sand complacency that Trump only intends to go after individual people he has already singled out. Do you really think he plans to stop at well-known liberals?
 

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Considering his oratory and rheteric, I am sure he would be very happy living in Oceania, get a nice apartment in Airstrip One, get a job with and spin lies and bullshit for the Ministry of Truth or maybe the Thought Police. He would really enjoy Hate Week and the daily 2 minutes of hate and is economically illiterate enough to never question Ingsoc no matter how obvious it's failings would be.
He's the top Islamist supporter on Terb
 
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