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Titalian

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WTF. Child molestation !!! and $150,000 bail. I'm guessing the Judge dosen't believe his story.
 

Keebler Elf

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Hard to tell whose telling the truth. Bitter scorned ex-'s can be VERY vindictive and may be trying to ruin his public image with false allegations. We'll see...
 

TeasePlease

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Hard to tell whose telling the truth. Bitter scorned ex-'s can be VERY vindictive and may be trying to ruin his public image with false allegations. We'll see...
This.

The problem is that he has a sketchy track record. IIRC, he lost his FFL because he failed a couple inventory audits (and given the types and nature of firearms he deals in, a few missing guns wasn't a small issue). He was able to continue his business (and his show) because he got his employees to apply for and receive a FFL, but they're essentially puppets. One of them left last year to start a competing shop down the road.

I believe he also has a few assault convictions on his record.
 

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The reality star was also charged with "a crime against nature,"

What, exactly, is a crime against nature?:confused:
Well, there was a a bottle of Jack, some vaseline and a really lonely looking goat....
 

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The reality star was also charged with "a crime against nature,"

What, exactly, is a crime against nature?:confused:
Historically a "crime against nature" or "unnatural act" has been a legal term in Common Law jurisdictions for Sodomy and Bestiality. In the U.S.A., since Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) provisions relating to adults have been struck down as unconstitutional.

Louisiana Revised Statutes 14:89

4. CRIME AGAINST NATURE

§89. Crime against nature

A. Crime against nature is the unnatural carnal copulation by a human being with another of the same sex or opposite sex or with an animal, except that anal sexual intercourse between two human beings shall not be deemed as a crime against nature when done under any of the circumstances described in R.S. 14:41, 14:42, 14:42.1 or 14:43. Emission is not necessary; and, when committed by a human being with another, the use of the genital organ of one of the offenders of whatever sex is sufficient to constitute the crime.

B.(1) Whoever violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined not more than two thousand dollars, imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than five years, or both.

(2) Whoever violates the provisions of this Section with a person under the age of eighteen years shall be fined not more than fifty thousand dollars, imprisoned at hard labor for not less than fifteen years nor more than fifty years, or both.

(3) Whoever violates the provisions of this Section with a person under the age of fourteen years shall be fined not more than seventy-five thousand dollars, imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty-five years nor more than fifty years, or both.

C. It shall be an affirmative defense to prosecution for a violation of this Section that, during the time of the alleged commission of the offense, the defendant was a victim of trafficking of children for sexual purposes as provided in R.S. 14:46.3(E).
 

mandrill

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Things are looking grim for this guy. Now his own daughter is backing up the claim, saying he took her virginity and raped her repeatedly. He's been re-arrested and faces additional charges.

Could still be bogus but where there's smoke...

http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/26/sons-of-guns-will-hayden-arrested-child-rape-charge-investigation/
Took mom and daughter quite a while to come forward with that accusation, huh?

His other daughter stands by dad. This case could go either way. Child molestation charges are frequently fabricated and often involve child alienation syndrome.
 

Keebler Elf

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TV show has been cancelled by Discovery.

Red Jacket Firearms has cut all ties with him.

More smoke...
 

mandrill

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TV show has been cancelled by Discovery.

Red Jacket Firearms has cut all ties with him.

More smoke...
"Smoke" = network execs, scared of being scapegoated for falling ratings and pressuring the show into jettisoning the ballast.
 

kugel1

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SO he didn't follow his sage words of advice at the beginning of each show..."Don't try this at home".
 

mandrill

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Or a man molesting his daughter...
Nobody knows that for sure at this point. Innocent until proven guilty. Especially on a charge where it's the complainant's word against the accused with no physical proof.
 

Keebler Elf

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DUH!

But there's enough smoke for him to be arrested (twice), have his TV show cancelled, and (most damning of all IMO) have him sever his ties with the company he founded.
 

Keebler Elf

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And now his other daughter (the one on the TV show) is saying he molested her as well.

This guy is guilty as sin.
 
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