Socialism defeated' -- Bolivia boots its ruling leftists after 20 years in power

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Was there ever a sweeter headline than this, coming from the Washington Post of all places?



Socialism is defeated as Bolivia heads to presidential election runoff
It must have been so painful for them to write it.



According to the Post:

LA PAZ, Bolivia — Bolivia’s socialist movement has been defeated for the first time in two decades, according to preliminary election results, as voters chose a centrist senator and a right-wing former president to go head-to-head in a presidential runoff that could bring dramatic change for this South American nation.

Centrist senator Rodrigo Paz and former president Jorge “Tuto” Quiroga won the most votes Sunday in a crowded race for president in this country of 12 million people, according to unofficial results from an early count that shows the two far out in front in a trend analysts say is irreversible.
Their victories mark the end of a socialist era for Bolivia, where the leftist movement of former president Evo Morales has dominated politics since his historic 2005 election as the country’s first Indigenous president. As the country faces its worst economic crisis in 40 years, voters here demanded a change.
Hell has frozen over in Bolivia -- which is often a bellwether for the direction of South America's politics.






The report notes that several conservative candidates didn't make the final cut for the runoff, Quiroga has been around for a long time, and Paz is a moderate. But something like this represents progress, given the long grip socialism has had on the battered Andean country, which is known for its valuable natural resources. And to read the article, Paz doesn't sound like a moderate -- he sounds pretty conservative, seeking to let markets determine prices.

Meanwhile, the performance of the socialists in office over 20 long years was execrable, and the Post gave an accurate-sounding rundown:







[Socialist Evo] Morales’s so-called “economic miracle” was once hailed as a socialist success story during his three terms as president. His government was credited with lifting millions out of poverty and into the middle class. He funneled billions of dollars into public works projects that transformed society, including aerial cable cars that float over the Andes here in the high-altitude administrative capital. Morales’s continued popularity, after three terms and a controversial attempt at a fourth, helped propel the 2020 election of Arce, his former economy minister and chosen successor.
But much like his leftist Latin American contemporaries at the start of this century, Morales’s government spending depended on an influx of cash from the global commodities boom. Everything changed after the plummet in prices of natural gas, Bolivia’s main export. Gas exports declined, imports rose and the central bank began running out of dollars. Bolivia, which once supplied half of its own diesel fuel, produced only 12 percent by 2023.



In recent months, Bolivians have been forced to sleep in their cars to wait to fill their tanks amid widespread fuel shortages. Inflation, which until 2023 was controlled at 2 percent, was more than 16 percent in July. Those who depend on government-subsidized food products have had to form long lines to buy bread.
“We’re bankrupt, there are no jobs here, everything is more expensive and the money is never enough,” said Julia Ayala Casa, as she voted for Paz in southern La Paz in a traditional pollera skirt worn by Indigenous Aymara and Quechua women here. “We have to get in line just to buy oil. There’s a line for everything.”
(Hey, New York City! This, too will be yours if you are foolish enough to elect Zohran Mamdani.)

In short, the country went down the same way Hugo Chavez's Venezuela went down, a big influx of natural resources cash, an even bigger round of government spending, and all of a sudden, the ruling clowns ran out of other people's money. Happens every time.

Left unsaid in the Post report was the example of next-door Argentina, which decisively rejected socialism after a long period of misrule, embraced libertarianism and is now seeing economic growth it's never seen before, growth the so-called experts were 'surprised' to see happen. That cannot be lost on millions of Bolivian locals, many of whom have worked in Argentina as illegal aliens. Instead of continuing to flee socialism, they took their country back.

I'm just surprised the ruling socialists didn't rig the election enough to keep themselves in power. The article describes how Morales and other leftists have sought to spoil their ballots ahead of the coming runoff, but that's a rearguard action that won't work.

The victory must have been too big to cheat, except that even Venezuela did cheated. They didn't, so there must be something good still there to work with. Bolivia may, this time, save itself.

'Socialism defeated' -- Bolivia boots its ruling leftists after 20 years in power - American Thinker
 

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But much like his leftist Latin American contemporaries at the start of this century, Morales’s government spending depended on an influx of cash from the global commodities boom. Everything changed after the plummet in prices of natural gas, Bolivia’s main export. Gas exports declined, imports rose and the central bank began running out of dollars. Bolivia, which once supplied half of its own diesel fuel, produced only 12 percent by 2023.
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Frankfooter

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You think Canada is socialist? That's the dumbest take I've heard today and it's still early.
How many right wingers on this board have called the liberals 'commies', el risitas?
You really don't think socialized free health care is socialism?
You think that's the free market approach?

I may have change my choice of label for you.

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The "commies" took over in 2006. All the anti socialists out there I always ask them to name me a SINGLE country with no socialist policies that is wealthy. JUST ONE!!!


 
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JohnLarue

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I thought you ran away after your fails on the climate change thread.
wrong again
you refused to learn fundamental science and i had thoroughly proven you to be a scientific know nothing and an ideologue fool who believe cancel culture trumps
scientific fundamentals.
So i moved on to spend time on other things

it must be so devastating for you to see yet another example (Bolivia) of socialism failure and rejection
just like you are going to be devastated by continued rejection of net zero and climate change insanity


New Zealand abandons Jacinda Ardern’s net zero push
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sleep well knowing your failed ideology is being rejected
 
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JohnLarue

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I may have change my choice of label for you.
label / cancel/ dig up dirt/ sling mud / debunk via slander
that's what you do and it is despicable and pathetic

but i guess when you are not bright enough to argue facts then label / cancel/ dig up dirt/ sling mud / debunk via slander is all you are capable of


slither away now
 

40micmic

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Look at what China has achieved in the last 20 years.
It has achieved a widening wealth inequality. But hey, common prosperity right?

Given the incredible land, human capital and demographic dividend they experienced, china should be much farther ahead if it werent for the CCP

Probably should stop watching CCP propaganda about LED lights on buildings and calling it infrastructure or believing any of the fake stats coming from that government.

 
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wrong again
you refused to learn fundamental science and i had thoroughly proven you to be a scientific know nothing and an ideologue fool who believe cancel culture trumps
scientific fundamentals.
So i moved on to spend time on other things
Nah, you ran away when you were caught out for using magical thinking and backing a theory of your own that the evidence shows to be nonsense.
it must be so devastating for you to see yet another example (Bolivia) of socialism failure and rejection
just like you are going to be devastated by continued rejection of net zero and climate change insanity









sleep well knowing your failed ideology is being rejected
I sleep well knowing that the social democracies of the northern EU states are amongst the happiest, safest and progressive places in the world.
While the US has declining mortality, major strife, most imprisoned and where the super rich get to decide how little the rest of the country must live on.

 

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It has achieved a widening wealth inequality. But hey, common prosperity right?

Given the incredible land, human capital and demographic dividend they experienced, china should be much farther ahead if it werent for the CCP

Probably should stop watching CCP propaganda about LED lights on buildings and calling it infrastructure or believing any of the fake stats coming from that government.

So is this propaganda?
It has achieved a widening wealth inequality. But hey, common prosperity right?

Given the incredible land, human capital and demographic dividend they experienced, china should be much farther ahead if it werent for the CCP

Probably should stop watching CCP propaganda about LED lights on buildings and calling it infrastructure or believing any of the fake stats coming from that government.


It has achieved a widening wealth inequality. But hey, common prosperity right?

Given the incredible land, human capital and demographic dividend they experienced, china should be much farther ahead if it werent for the CCP

Probably should stop watching CCP propaganda about LED lights on buildings and calling it infrastructure or believing any of the fake stats coming from that government.

So is this propaganda then?

 

40micmic

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So is this propaganda?





So is this propaganda then?

Almost half the country lives in squalor while experiencing the greatest tailwinds in economic history and the CCP managed to fuck that up.

Sorry but $2.15/day doesnt exactly qualify as even moderate prosperity which was promised by the communists. You should read a bit up a bit more about what Le Keqiang (former premier of China) had to say.

Li Keqiang was also known to talk more openly about real economic problems which existed behind the official propaganda of the Party. He revealed that nearly 600 million people in China lived with an income of less than 1000 Yuan per month and many of them did not have pensions or medical insurance.


This is what communism produces.
 

40micmic

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$2.15/day isnt exactly the standard for a "developed" country and economy to use either. But the propagandists like to use this line as the qualifier to show how much the CCP has done for China. Silly rabbits who believe this.
 

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Why would anyone hold up China as successful socialism?
China is predominantly state capitalism. It's now facing challenges that all the fast growing developing countries have faced.
Progressives are generally idealistic about a heavy state hand in the economy. They think the state can deliver extended results trying to avoid disagreeable aspects of free markets and business cycles.
 

nottyboi

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Almost half the country lives in squalor while experiencing the greatest tailwinds in economic history and the CCP managed to fuck that up.

Sorry but $2.15/day doesnt exactly qualify as even moderate prosperity which was promised by the communists. You should read a bit up a bit more about what Le Keqiang (former premier of China) had to say.

Li Keqiang was also known to talk more openly about real economic problems which existed behind the official propaganda of the Party. He revealed that nearly 600 million people in China lived with an income of less than 1000 Yuan per month and many of them did not have pensions or medical insurance.

This is what communism produces.
Of course it does not,. Below that is EXTREME POVERTY so 2:15 is just poverty. Its how far you progress in how long and if you looks at India vs China who has advanced further?
 

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