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VirginJohn

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I noticed some escorts offer 'social date' or some sort of social familarisation service where you could meet the escort in a social setting, at a rate per hour, and see if there is any sort of connection before actually going along with the service. I think this is a great idea and was wondering how prevelant that practise is since I think it would be a better idea to go out socially with an escort and see if there is any sort of real connection before choosing to really looking for someone to go regular.

For people who have social anxiety or feel timid getting sexual with women on 'real dates' I think this is a workable idea since there is someone to practise on and it makes the experience feel a bit more real and natural if you could actually sort of get to know someone for an hour or a few hours before an actual session.

In fact I've noticed one ad from a 'Cleo' on Redzone that charges about
$ 50.00 per hour, and that's now in the back of my mind since I'd probably feel more comfortable on a social date first.
 

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i've met a few guys off the clock for coffee before booking. i have been told i should charge, but figure why bother it's just coffee and chat right. :)
the few i have met this way have become regulars.
 

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Well it's not really free since that little investment of your time seemed to create regular business since those people really connected with you.

Obviously I think most people want to feel comfortable with a potential service provider and see her informally before an actual session to get the chemistry, vibes, etc...., and on the SP's side it's an investment, so it's a win-win situation.
 

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KWI said:
I have a intro-rate for this type of things as well.

Personally I do charge because my time is money. I know it might sound crude to some, but I get paid for my time. Regardless if it is web-work or SP work. It is me that is being sold, my creative thoughts and design knowledge, or my sexual prowess if you will. So when I do a coffee it is compensated but a much lower rate of course and always in a way where the client can extend to a full date during the intro should he want to.

Kiarra
What is the intro-rate, and length of informal date?
 

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i beg to differ

the meeting for coffee is free i actually buy my own coffee and don't expect anything but coffee and chat.
i have never went from the coffee shop to bed and never will if the guy wants to meet fine then he leaves and makes his mind up if he wants to see me.
granted I'm an indie and i make my own rules, I'm doing what i feel for my self is ok. I'm not saying that anyone else should or has to follow my lead, we all make our own choices and for me this is what i feel comfortable with.
if it happens great if not that's great too I'm happy just to meet new people.
sorry if you think I'm a crack pot it's just me.
 

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VirginJohn said:
Well it's not really free since that little investment of your time seemed to create regular business since those people really connected with you.

Obviously I think most people want to feel comfortable with a potential service provider and see her informally before an actual session to get the chemistry, vibes, etc...., and on the SP's side it's an investment, so it's a win-win situation.
I totally agree. And, it may lead to a friendship, in and out of the biz. Been there, done that.
 

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I might be totally wrong about this, I will be cautious to expect more than a brief close interlude with the time you spend with any SP. Any expectations beyond having a good time we pay for the duration of any session is violating the rule of the game. I cross that line once and was on thin ice for quite some time. Keep the emotion 'at arm length' rule and play by it then you won't regret. Read between the lines, time is money for most of us.

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VirginJohn

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luv4lust said:
sorry maybe i should make my meetings more upscale so i don't seem like some white trash :rolleyes:
What are you talking about? You enjoy meeting new people, that sounds natural. Obviously if I was to choose between paying for something or meeting someone for free, I would choose the latter. You meet regular clients from that method - so they would think you are white whatever - obviously this has worked for you and you appear to be really enjoy it.

Oh, that's right, you can see by my alias that I've never been with anyone before, that's right I'm a 'virgin' and never touched anyone before (heck I dont even know how breasts feel like) and I'm just testing my boundaries on here - so you are not the real crack pot in here.
 

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i just have to say this then your going on ignore

KWI said:
About the same Cloe, although generally is schedule for about 45 minutes. I have only ever had one informal date session that was not turned into a formal date right away. So gernally, we would go back to my incall as I always leave it as an option. I don't do the coffee shop as a informal date either. I personally prefer something a little more upscale for meeting besides at the local Timmie. I reserve that for coffee in my personal life, lol.

The one that didn't take the formal date right away, booked be every Sunday night for 2 hours for a total of 2 years. So it does work out usually and can be very win-win. I also like to host or attend parties where clients get a "free" chance to meet me in an informal setting and they can make a clear choice from there.

I think the informal paid date is more for clients who are just a little more nervous about meeting an SP in general or who are looking for the one SP they can see on a regular basis. So in anyway they are still choosing you and therefore can pay for the little bit of time. If that makes sense???

Kiarra

You seem to be able to take shots at people in your own way, {aka timmies} was your shot to me knowing that's my only coffee shop. Yes it was directed at me you know it, i know it, and anyone who knows you as a shit disturber knows it. You tend to want to get under peoples skin, then pretend your an angel. I'm not in this thread to be flamed or flame. Just keep your lil stabs to your self cause really it is quite tacky and not very upscale of you at all :rolleyes:

sorry VirginJohn
 

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Dinner Date Rate

I think SPs should have a dinner date rate that is some what less than the FS outcall rate. You are not having sex with her, just having a conversation over dinner and you (the potential customer) pays for the meal and drinks. So why should you pay for the full FS rate? But all agencies charge the full outcall FS rate.


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VirginJohn said:
What are you talking about? You enjoy meeting new people, that sounds natural. Obviously if I was to choose between paying for something or meeting someone for free, I would choose the latter. You meet regular clients from that method - so they would think you are white whatever - obviously this has worked for you and you appear to be really enjoy it.

Oh, that's right, you can see by my alias that I've never been with anyone before, that's right I'm a 'virgin' and never touched anyone before (heck I dont even know how breasts feel like) and I'm just testing my boundaries on here - so you are not the real crack pot in here.

So what...guess what, all guys are born virgins. Thats how it is.

Theres nothing wrong, bad with seeing a escort and she won't give you a hard time either. Some guys are shy, big deal.

You could just look at some escort company sites and write down the names of a few ladies that you seem to like. Then call the places up and just say you are a shy guy, do you think she be a good pick for me or would somebody else be better.

When you do book her, you can be in control. If you just want to go slow, fine. Its your hour or however long you book. You need not to go all the way if you don't want to. You need not to even take your shirt off, but if you like she will. Go at your own pace. An hour is still alot of time. You can talk, hug and take it from there. Just if she goes too fast, say you are very shy.

Not sure if you should say "virgin", depends on the girl. Some will laugh at you, I think. But being shy is more "normal" you could say. They see more of those guys.

Don't get so work up about it. Theres a first time for everybody.
 

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This topic has been done to death as well and before we break out into the ramifications of meeting a potential client "off the clock" or "on the clock" you will find that indies often will meet someone for a reduced rate but Luv's the exception.

Remember: you're paying for their time (as Kiarra said) and whether that involves the business that they're in (sp'ing) or basket weaving, if she's with you, she's on the clock.

Needless to say, in almost every other industry where one gets paid for their time, they get paid for the time they are doing their job/career/chosen field. By sp standards if you meet someone online and decide to meet for coffee, and if they're a lawyer, you better have your cheque book handy because some lawyers charge $300.00 an hour.......thank god not everyone lives by sp standards is all I can say!! lol
 

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It is a great idea, but...

VirginJohn said:
I noticed some escorts offer 'social date' or some sort of social familarisation service where you could meet the escort in a social setting, at a rate per hour, and see if there is any sort of connection before actually going along with the service. I think this is a great idea and was wondering how prevelant that practise is since I think it would be a better idea to go out socially with an escort and see if there is any sort of real connection before choosing to really looking for someone to go regular.

For people who have social anxiety or feel timid getting sexual with women on 'real dates' I think this is a workable idea since there is someone to practise on and it makes the experience feel a bit more real and natural if you could actually sort of get to know someone for an hour or a few hours before an actual session.
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..couple of comments that may be helpful.
I have paid full rate for a true first dinner date, and that is all it was. A great evening, and well worth it.
Up to each gal of course how and on what basis she chooses to handle prelim (i.e. b4 sex) meetings, and there is no wrong way.

Except for guys (sigh). Unfortunately I have been told that there is a species of fucktard that likes to book public meetings, then either no show or peek :mad: from the shadows. So, some gals are very cautious about it, and guys need to be on their best e and phone behaviour.
 
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It would be nice for once to see a thread that doesn't have scattered cat fights in it. The guy asked a simple question IMAO.

I personally don't have time to do informal get-to-know-you dates. I wish I had more time and then I would actually see more SPs for oral fun.
 
Hello,

I'm Cloe and I offer a 'meet and greet' rate for potential clients who want to meet and chat before deciding on the service they would like to book for. I think it works out for each of us. The rate is much less than the rate for FS, they get to see what I'm working with and we get to 'click'. We must admit ladies that this is a time for money type business. I enjoy what I do, but I dont do it for free. An appointment is an appointment-clothes on or off. I dont answer calls during an appointment, at a coffee house or at a hotel.

Most times the client wants to meet in the morning or afternoon, so coffee is perfect. I love Timmies, but for the meet I would suggest a nice coffee house with some ambiance. I drive to the meetings so alcohol is out of the question. I dont drink during a session, and although the meet and greet is more informal-no drinking either.
Once the meet and greet is over, the client will book time for another day.
It works well I think for the shy guys, or for those looking for a certain someone.

Just my 5 cents! LOL!
 

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"We must admit ladies that this is a time for money type business." sorry, but everyone who gets paid by the hour is in a "time for money business" and many employees do things "off the clock".....from stopping off somewhere on the way in to pick up something the company needs, from working through a lunch hour to get that last minute quote done, etc.

A really good comparison would be to someone going to an interview: at the end of the interview does the potential employee present a bill to the interviewer for the time they spent? NO......
 
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tboy said:
"We must admit ladies that this is a time for money type business." sorry, but everyone who gets paid by the hour is in a "time for money business" and many employees do things "off the clock".....from stopping off somewhere on the way in to pick up something the company needs, from working through a lunch hour to get that last minute quote done, etc.

A really good comparison would be to someone going to an interview: at the end of the interview does the potential employee present a bill to the interviewer for the time they spent? NO......
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Thanks for your reply. Your right, I am not disputing that fact. I do things off the clock too. Preparation, travel, stopping to pick up something that will be needed for the appointment, going over the scheduled time, etc.
I choose to have a rate so it can be seen as business and thought of as an appointment. Someone mentioned some guys make appointments and dont show. It happens, trust me.
If they do that for the meet and greet at least I can grab a coffee, relax and still take my calls. Its not a total waste. They just wont be able to make an appointment in the future.
 
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